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[JBR]

That's interesting, BT.

It occurs to me that when large animals have to be put down, a vet would likely use a 'humane killer' that fires a bolt directly into the animal's brain. The animal knows nothing, apparently.

Couldn't this be used in a slaughterhouse. Each animal, when its turn came, could be let into a separate room - preferably soundproofed - to be humanely dispatched, and the following ones need know nothing about it.

Of course, such a humane killing would not be acceptable to the Religion of Peace.

I give up. I reckon that within fifty years this country will be muslim. I shall not be here, of course, but oh how the mighty are fallen.

 

[Big Tone]

I don't know JB, I can't imagine a vet, or most vets, systematically use a bolt method. (Still asking, not from a point of knowing).

I would imagine they 'inject' because it's kinder and perhaps cannot do the same in mass production for human consumption due to the food chain? I know when friends have had their pets put down it's always been an injection. A link I read said that gassing, carbon dioxide, was used on some pigs. That seems kinder. Just go to sleep....

As for this country becoming Muslim one day? Perhaps, anything could happen and has happened in the past. Countries and their people and cultures change. Look what Putin said recently about us being a pathetic little voice. (Will have to search for the exact phrase).

But how could this happen? We invaded and ruled two thirds of the world once. America is not made up of the Indiginous people. What are 'whites' doing ruling South Africa? How disrespectful and wrong is it that the Beautiful Aboriginal folk are all but slaves in their own country... etc. etc.

So maybe now it's our turn to feel how 'we' have made others feel. It's not my or your fault of course, it's politics, power and evolution. We need to adapt. ('Who moved my cheese').

 

[JBR]

I don't know JB, I can't imagine a vet, or most vets, systematically use a bolt method. (Still asking, not from a point of knowing).

I would imagine they 'inject' because it's kinder and perhaps cannot do the same in mass production for human consumption due to the food chain? I know when friends have had their pets put down it's always been an injection. A link I read said that gassing, carbon dioxide, was used on some pigs. That seems kinder. Just go to sleep....

I don't know for certain either. I do know that for small domestic animals an overdose of anaesthetic is the method. But for larger farm animals and horses I was under the impression that a bolt into the brain was the norm. I remember when I was at school, a mate showed me his father's (an RSPCA official) humane killer which was, as I remember, as I described. (He got into trouble with his dad afterwards, btw, but that's another story). Admittedly, that must have been about 45 years ago, and things may have changed.

As for this country becoming Muslim one day? Perhaps, anything could happen and has happened in the past. Countries and their people and cultures change. Look what Putin said recently about us being a pathetic little voice. (Will have to search for the exact phrase).

But how could this happen? We invaded and ruled two thirds of the world once. America is not made up of the Indiginous people. What are 'whites' doing ruling South Africa? How disrespectful and wrong is it that the Beautiful Aboriginal folk are all but slaves in their own country... etc. etc.

So maybe now it's our turn to feel how 'we' have made others feel. It's not my or your fault of course, it's politics, power and evolution. We need to adapt. ('Who moved my cheese').

You're probably right. Personally, I think it's almost inevitable and that if (or when) Britain becomes officially a muslim country it will be no-one's fault other than the British people. For some reason we feel the need to be tolerant to the extent that our own well-being suffers.

Sad, as it is still preventable.

 

[RogueHanger]

I accidentally use a corruption of ****espirits username (derived from his racist attitude) and the pathetic, snivelling racists call for the Mods to intervene.
How cowardly and juvenile is that?
(NB I've changed the potential racially abusive term in my quote.)

Well done ****espirit.

That must be the biggest racist statement made at any time on DIYNOT,and he's allowed to get away with it.

You beat me to it enyam. Not only should the comment be in the 'insults' forum that coathanger suggests but that is definitely a RACIST COMMENT
Mods???????

Where were you when you made your own racists remarks, all those number of times in so many threads. Not only you three snivelling cowards but the other few racist posters as well.

I made a brief, unsubstantiated statement. Coathanger used juvenile insults (which eventually turned racist) to try to discredit the statement. ........../
/................ Anyone who says different, even with proof, is a racist and either deluded or lying.

First of all: Coathanger, You keep apologising for mistakenly making a racist 'error'. Now, if that was any other poster on here, I would probably give them the benefit of the doubt. But, as you seem to be the world's expert on racism (the only reason you joined the forum infact), there is absolutely no way you could have made that remark by accident.

Didn't he state somewhere that is why he joined.It was no accident he meant it.

I did say I gave it some serious consideration before aplogising, and I apologised.
Now if anyone has gone though the process of realising that you've accidentally done something wrong and against your raison d'etre, you'll realise the humility that is experienced. Added to that the public ignominy that an apology will cause, you may perhaps understand the strength of feeling that motivates one to make such a public apology.

Now the dopey plonker racists think that I did all that on purpose.
They really are imbeciles.

They need to discredit someone else by any means possible to divert attention from their own racist and prejudiced views.

 

[RogueHanger]

It occurs to me that when large animals have to be put down, a vet would likely use a 'humane killer' that fires a bolt directly into the animal's brain. The animal knows nothing, apparently.

I understand that this used to be the method used in abattoirs in this country but it was deemed cruel because it wasn't always accurate and sometimes the gun would misfire or fail to penetrate far enough.
So, despite it being in use for many years, some now want to accuse others of cruelty. The mind boggles.

Couldn't this be used in a slaughterhouse. Each animal, when its turn came, could be let into a separate room - preferably soundproofed - to be humanely dispatched, and the following ones need know nothing about it.

Of course, such a humane killing would not be acceptable to the Religion of Peace.

It's not the sound-proofed room that Muslims would object to.
As long as the animal is alive when slaughtered thee's no problem.
The consumers would object on grounds of economics.

I give up. I reckon that within fifty years this country will be muslim. I shall not be here, of course, but oh how the mighty are fallen.

Dopey plonker. The religion of this country is enshrined in the English consitution, (which is not a written document but a series of traditionally evolved legislation)

The Church of England is the established church in England (i.e., not in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kingdom[/QUOTE]

How do you think that Islam will replace the established religion in England?

BTW, are you bothered that currently the established religion is C of E?
Is that you religion, and if not where's your objection to that?

What right do RC's have in England, etc, etc.

You come out with wild and wierd statements without giving them any thought before hand.
I bet your pupils used to laugh at yopur ideas. Even school kids today are more enlightened.
You should go back to school, as a pupil.

 

[RogueHanger]

I'm sure the Muslim abbatoirs are using positive disc.... I mean action, to ensure that the protected characteristic of being white is selected in tie break situations and ensure a beneficial balance in their workforce.

What a dopey comment!
If you want to work as a slaughter person in a Muslim abattoir, preparing animals for Halal consumption, it stands to reason that being Muslim is a vocational requirement. Just as being a jew is probably a vocational requirement to prepare kosher meat, or perform jewish weddings, etc.
Just as you must be a catholic priest tp perform mass, etc.

Dopey plonker!

Brain, gear, then mouth!

 

[Brigadier]

Less the "racism" per se RH, but more your track record on equivalent postings.

I personally didn't read anything into it, and took it for a play-on-words insult (which I am as sure as one can be on a forum, was how it was intended).

Boot on the other foot though, what you have been subjected to is but a smidge, compared to what you have been doing on these race-related / discrimination threads: mis-quoting posters, picking single words and dissecting entire characters and prejudices from them, so missing the obvious point that you are either totally thick, trolling, or just trying to be as exasperating as possible, and all in labyrinthine posts, spread over pages and pages.

Good on you for apologising though, even if it genuinely wasn't warranted.

 

[Big Tone]

As for this country becoming Muslim one day? Perhaps, anything could happen and has happened in the past. Countries and their people and cultures change. Look what Putin said recently about us being a pathetic little voice.(Will have to search for the exact phrase).

Just to complete my point..

Just a small Island no one pays attention to

That's how we are viewed by many around the world; and by many in our own country. The truth is a hard pill to swallow.

 

[JBR]

As for this country becoming Muslim one day? Perhaps, anything could happen and has happened in the past. Countries and their people and cultures change. Look what Putin said recently about us being a pathetic little voice.(Will have to search for the exact phrase).

Just to complete my point..

Just a small Island no one pays attention to

That's how we are viewed by many around the world; and by many in our own country. The truth is a hard pill to swallow.

Although it pains me to say so, yes, I'm afraid he's perfectly correct.

There's absolutely nothing we can do to counter Russian moves in the Ukraine. Yes, we can send what's left of our pitifully small army to cling on to the Americans' coat tails in little tin-pot countries, but when it comes to someone with a little more clout, like Russia, we are stuffed.

We can't even do anything economically, as Russia can turn off the taps to our gas supply.

Yes, I'm afraid we - of our own volition, it would appear - are well on the way to achieving our aim of becoming another third world country. As for how we are viewed by others, I'm convinced that our EU 'partners' see us as no more than a little offshore island in which to conveniently dump their undesirables.

 

[FiremanT]

There's some really dopey plonkers out there, making some really dopey comments, except, of course, their comments are really motivated by racism.

Probably true


Lets also not forget that all Subway outlets are a franchise and if the original owners didn't want to offer Halal meat, I'm sure a) they would have a choice, but chose the right business decision, and b) they could have withdrawn their support for the franchise.
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You clearly know even less than me about the rights and responsibilities of a franchisee, or understand the commercial implication of your statement.

The main reason I have only eaten 2 subways sandwiches is that the products are a pile of carp

 

[Big Tone]

The main reason I have only eaten 2 subways sandwiches is that the products are a pile of carp

They make, and have made, a lot of money selling their "carp". So could argue who's the bigger fool, Subway or the punters...?

Keep hearing the same about Mc. D but they're laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[RogueHanger]

Lets also not forget that all Subway outlets are a franchise and if the original owners didn't want to offer Halal meat, I'm sure a) they would have a choice, but chose the right business decision, and b) they could have withdrawn their support for the franchise.

You clearly know even less than me about the rights and responsibilities of a franchisee, or understand the commercial implication of your statement.

The main reason I have only eaten 2 subways sandwiches is that the products are a pile of carp

I know little about UK franchise laws but I do know that the contract is for a definite length of time. Therefore a franchisee could refuse to renew the contract at the end of the period.

Also, as it was a response to demand, one would assume it was the franchisees advising the francjhisor. Thus it was not a dictat from head office.

Additionally, as UK franchises are subject to normal business law, there would have to be either a clasue in the contract allowing the franchisor to insist on the supplier of the products sold, etc.
The franchisee would have been legally advised during the contract negotiation.

No such clause would mean the franchisee could simply refuse or source their own supplies.

NB. No crtitism but note the syntax. quotes start with this

and ends with this

 

[Whitespirit66]

I personally didn't read anything into it, and took it for a play-on-words insult (which I am as sure as one can be on a forum, was how it was intended).

I think everyone on here took it that way. We're all sensible, rational adults (with one obvious exception) and would normally treat it as the purile jibe that it was. Too good an opportunity to pass it by without a little 'what goes around, comes around' humiliation and ridicule for the buffoon that wrote it.

Of course, out there in lefty-land and the anti-discrimination industry, such a slip up would have justified their pathetic existence and meant them all competing with each other to see who can be the most offended and outraged.

Just shows up lefties for what they have always been. Ludicrous, gutless hypocrites.

 

[RogueHanger]

I personally didn't read anything into it, and took it for a play-on-words insult (which I am as sure as one can be on a forum, was how it was intended).

I think everyone on here took it that way. We're all sensible, rational adults (with one obvious exception) and would normally treat it as the purile jibe that it was. Too good an opportunity to pass it by without a little 'what goes around, comes around' humiliation and ridicule for the buffoon that wrote it.

Of course, out there in lefty-land and the anti-discrimination industry, such a slip up would have justified their pathetic existence and meant them all competing with each other to see who can be the most offended and outraged.

Just shows up lefties for what they have always been. Ludicrous, gutless hypocrites.

First of all you plonkers claim racism when I accidentally use a potentially racially abusive comment, and you call for the mods to intervene. I point out your pathetic snivelling behaviour after making so many racist comments youselves.
Then I apologise, because I realise I made a mistake. So you accuse me of doing it on purpose.
Now I've pointed out that anyone who has to apologise in public would defintely not set themselves up for the ignominy and humiliation.
Now you try to suggest that you didn't consider it racially abusive in the first place and you're suggesting it was just banter.

Well, my apology stands because, as I mentioned before, to a casual reader it could be construed that I did use a racially abusive term and therefore I am a racist. I was mortified when it was pointed out. I wanted to set that record straight. Hopefully I have achieved that.

Now if ****espirit thinks it's gutless hypocrites who apologise, then I would suggest he wouldn't understand the concept. I would suggest he's just insulting because he's nothing left, no integrity, no honour, no honesty, no respect and no decency.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I have sussed it.

RH is a spin-doctor.