Sue Gray

[JohnD]

The papers certainly seem to think she did

Well that's certainly convincing evidence

In your head.

 

[motorbiking]

Do you have reports that the meetings were disclosed? Has Sir Kier been open, transparent and honest about when she was first in dialogue with Labour for a role?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Even after all these pages of support. It's obvious that nobody is trying to say Boris is innocent. That would be a hell of a claim anyway

It's just, why wasn't Kier fined. Even though it's not even comparable.

Total whataboutery

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Do you have reports that the meetings were disclosed?

Do you have ANY proof, other than mud slinging ?

Surely any legal person would say she was innocent until proven guilty ?

 

[motorbiking]

Sir Kier has repeatedly been asked when Labour started discussions. He knows she is exposed for failure to disclose the meetings. This is why he is withholding the info.

What other reason could there be ?

 

[Brigadier]

Sir Kier has repeatedly been asked when Labour started discussions. He knows she is exposed for failure to disclose the meetings. This is why he is withholding the info.

What other reason could there be ?

What's it like down there, at the bottom of the barrel you're scraping?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Sir Kier has repeatedly been asked when Labour started discussions. He knows she is exposed for failure to disclose the meetings. This is why he is withholding the info.

What other reason could there be ?

even if that's true, it doesn't make Boris innocent.

what about, what about . Need a new spade yet, you are wearing the current 1 out.

 

[motorbiking]

It's no surprise that those who hate the Tories aren't going to enjoy my view in this thread. I'm no fan of any political party. The wrong people are always attracted to politics. Very, very few non-professional politicians in the role. I'd like to see people go get some life and work experience outside the public sector rather than be professional MPs.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

It's nothing to do with hating Tories. You can still be a Tory but dislike Johnson

It's the blind insistence on trying to get Johnson off the hook that's the issue

 

[Notch7]

nothing to see here

as you can see from the timeline, to suggest there is anything untoward is ignoring the facts

 

[Notch7]

I'd like to see people go get some life and work experience outside the public sector rather than be professional MPs.

Keir Starmer

serious career before entering politics

 

[Deleted member 174758]

... which Prime Minister lied to the Queen to prorogue Parliament and remove democratic control so he could rule like an Emperor?

Was it

1) Pinoccio

2) Boris Johnson

Both?

 

[Notch7]

I always think the name Sue Gray seems to be made for a civil servant

 

[IT Minion]

It's no surprise that those who hate the Tories aren't going to enjoy my view in this thread. I'm no fan of any political party. The wrong people are always attracted to politics. Very, very few non-professional politicians in the role. I'd like to see people go get some life and work experience outside the public sector rather than be professional MPs.

Like Boris Johnson!

Sleazy people will be sleazy if they start in politics or move into it later.

Owen Patterson ran a company. Chris Pincher was an IT consultant (can't trust them).

 

[JohnD]

It's no surprise that those who hate the Tories aren't going to enjoy my view in this thread.

Actually, many of us are people who despise politicians who lie to the nation, to Parliament, and to the Queen.

Not you, apparently.