Sue Gray

[blup]

Its not about tory hating, the civil service rules are aimed at policy discussions between civil servants and opposition leaders so government ministers are aware of relevant conversations. It would happen particularly at times of crisis or at the end of a governments term of office, or when new shadow leaders are appointed. That is completely different to Sue Grays position where she’s decided to resign and look for/ be approached to do other work.

Blup

 

[JohnD]

"...for some of Boris Johnson’s allies, it presents them with the opportunity to muddy the waters around Johnson’s exit, and the significance of her parties report. (For the real story of Gray’s report, Rob Hutton’s piece for the Critic is worth reading). But it helps them throw enough mud and enough confusion that it blurs the real reasons for Johnson’s departure and — they hope — facilitates his return as prime minister."

FT.com


It's so sweet to see that even Johnson still has some allies.

 

[Odds]

Ever since the news broke last Thursday that Labour had offered Gray a job, the Tories have been spitting tacks. Many, like the increasingly spectral Jacob Rees-Mogg, were convinced this was a stitch up. That Starmer and Gray had plotted through lockdown to remove Boris Johnson.

Stop to think this one through a minute. For this to be true, Starmer and Gray would have had to have arranged the parties and somehow made Boris attend them. And get people to photograph them. They had also managed to encourage people to throw up in bins, have sex in cupboards and play Abba loudly in the No 10 flat. Quite the act of coercive control.

All that was then needed was for someone to blow the whistle and for Gray to manoeuvre herself into a position where she would be given the job of investigating the parties. Then she would have to write a report that even the Tories felt went soft on Johnson, as it ignored half the parties he attended, and then rely on 60 ministers subsequently resigning on another matter to force Boris out of No 10. It was all totally mad. A conspiracy theory for the ages. Which is why it appealed to so many Conservative MPs. And Johnson.

John Crace@theGruntaid

 

[Brigadier]

Ever since the news broke last Thursday that Labour had offered Gray a job, the Tories have been spitting tacks. Many, like the increasingly spectral Jacob Rees-Mogg, were convinced this was a stitch up. That Starmer and Gray had plotted through lockdown to remove Boris Johnson.

Stop to think this one through a minute. For this to be true, Starmer and Gray would have had to have arranged the parties and somehow made Boris attend them. And get people to photograph them. They had also managed to encourage people to throw up in bins, have sex in cupboards and play Abba loudly in the No 10 flat. Quite the act of coercive control.

All that was then needed was for someone to blow the whistle and for Gray to manoeuvre herself into a position where she would be given the job of investigating the parties. Then she would have to write a report that even the Tories felt went soft on Johnson, as it ignored half the parties he attended, and then rely on 60 ministers subsequently resigning on another matter to force Boris out of No 10. It was all totally mad. A conspiracy theory for the ages. Which is why it appealed to so many Conservative MPs. And Johnson.

John Crace@theGruntaid

At least we know that the-minister-for-the-19th-century didn't organise any parties.

No invitations (handwritten in ink with quill, delivered by messenger on horseback). No string quartet booking.

 

[blup]

He had covid tests couriered to his Somerset mansion, his defence that he didn’t ask for it to be delivered. That is real power.

Blup

 

[JohnD]

For this to be true, Starmer and Gray would have had to have arranged the parties and somehow made Boris attend them. And get people to photograph them. They had also managed to encourage people to throw up in bins, have sex in cupboards and play Abba loudly in the No 10 flat. Quite the act of coercive control.

How can @motorbiking convince himself?

 

[securespark]

There are fruit cakes and there are party fruit cakes.

Blup

N'oubliez pas les gâteaux aux fruits français....

 

[SirGalahad]

Stupid RW getting angry over the wrong issues again and again - more bait and switch rubbish.

 

[Odds]

How can @motorbiking convince himself?

Hypnotherapy?

 

[fillyboy]

Tory fury as Sue Gray refuses to cooperate with inquiry into her job with Labour

 

[IT Minion]

Oddly she chose not to engage with a political witch hunt that had no ability to make her engage with it.

Tory incompetence again

 

[motorbiking]

The left leaning voters on this forum do like to draw inference on guilt from those who refuse to testify. What should we conclude in this case?

My take, conversations were clearly happening and she doesn't want to get into a situation where she either has to lie and deny them or exposes herself to having an unreported conflict.

Either that or a years gardening leave sounds very nice.

 

[Vinty]

Why did Boris Johnson have a meeting with Sue Gray.

Why do you think he wanted a meeting.
He wanted a leg over.

 

[Vinty]

Everybody does not lie to Parliament

Ha, ha, ha.
Sorry.

 

[SirGalahad]

The left leaning voters on this forum do like to draw inference on guilt from those who refuse to testify. What should we conclude in this case?

My take, conversations were clearly happening and she doesn't want to get into a situation where she either has to lie and deny them or exposes herself to having an unreported conflict.

Either that or a years gardening leave sounds very nice.

Lie?

Well if that's all there is to it, because lying never bothered the right, so why you lot so upset.