In what way it is "unreal", when someone says that a website tries to pass itself off as an official government information outlet, or poses as an official Government website, to ask them to explain why they think that?
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Is your position that in the absence of any withdrawal agreement we have absolutely no financial commitments obligations etc which have accrued during our membership?
They will want our business, but they'll get a better deal out of a small nation rather than having to negotiate with the world's biggest trading bloc...
The UK post brexit will be offered 'take it or leave it' deals, because the UK will be in the position of 'beggars can't be choosers'!
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If the country wants to sell more to us then we can try enter into a FTA (yes FTA are better than WTO terms) which if we have reneged on past deals will be considered or brought up in negotiations.
Would you do work for someone who has shortchanged someone before?
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If someone wanted you to do some work for them, and you knew that they had a record of entering into agreements and then reneging on them, walking away without paying what they owed, how keen would you be to take the job on?
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In reply to last 3 posts.
If somone gave me notice that they were not going to pay me in a certain amount of time. I would regard that as notice to a new agreement. I would then stop working for them, until further notice
If you went to a new golf club and take out a new membership. Why would they not agree to let you join ? After all you did give your last club notice that you were leaving
Country's like Chile would surely like to demonstrate that their wines are as good if not better than the French wines, so why would they not want to take more on from a big wine drinking market like ours
If somone gave me notice that they were not going to pay me in a certain amount of time. I would regard that as notice to a new agreement. I would then stop working for them, until further notice
If you went to a new golf club and take out a new membership. Why would they not agree to let you join ? After all you did give your last club notice that you were leaving
Country's like Chile would surely like to demonstrate that their wines are as good if not better than the French wines, so why would they not want to take more on from a big wine drinking market like ours
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Lol...Bodd,,,you cannot be simplyfying buying and floggin commodities like that!!..Do you not know its a highly complex task that needs 28 countries to debate for 5 years!
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Rofl...Bodd,,,wash your mouth out!!!
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The French wine producers know this will all get sorted out one day and we will trade nicely again. By then of course we may have grown fond of new world wines from a cross the globe, and no longer have a taste for the French stuff.
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Well looks like the big US lobbyists are gearing up to screw the UK over.
Lobbyists for big firms made more than 130 demands, which include:
Changing how NHS chiefs buy drugs to suit big US pharmaceutical companies
Britain scraps its safety-first approach to safety and food standards
Law changes that would allow foreign companies to sue the British state
Removal of protections for traditional British products.
https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=USTR-2018-0036-0107
The US pharmaceutical business lobby wants to change the British system for evaluating drugs in a way that would suit American firms.
The Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America berates the NHS’s current risk-averse system, designed to guard the publicly-funded service against paying for ineffective and overpriced drugs, as “rigid” and a “blunt containment tool”.
In a submission to Trump’s trade department, the group goes on to say the UK’s “narrow approaches health technology assessments, such as rigid cost-effectiveness methodologies, should not be the principle framework for assessing value.”
I give up at the madness of Brexit. You have voted to be poorer. WHY?
Lobbyists for big firms made more than 130 demands, which include:
Changing how NHS chiefs buy drugs to suit big US pharmaceutical companies
Britain scraps its safety-first approach to safety and food standards
Law changes that would allow foreign companies to sue the British state
Removal of protections for traditional British products.
https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=USTR-2018-0036-0107
The US pharmaceutical business lobby wants to change the British system for evaluating drugs in a way that would suit American firms.
The Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America berates the NHS’s current risk-averse system, designed to guard the publicly-funded service against paying for ineffective and overpriced drugs, as “rigid” and a “blunt containment tool”.
In a submission to Trump’s trade department, the group goes on to say the UK’s “narrow approaches health technology assessments, such as rigid cost-effectiveness methodologies, should not be the principle framework for assessing value.”
I give up at the madness of Brexit. You have voted to be poorer. WHY?
Good news! Better terms are expected from the UK/Japan trade deal when it happens! Driving a hard bargain!
https://www.ft.com/content/5ce60af2-2b90-11e9-a5ab-ff8ef2b976c7
That is, of course, better terms for Japan. Worse for UK.
"Japan has agreed to extend existing trade terms for the duration of Britain’s planned transition period with the EU — but this will not apply if the UK fails to strike a deal with Brussels. It is now too late for the Japanese Diet to ratify any agreement before Brexit is scheduled to take place on March 29. There is also a wide gap in expectations about a trade accord, which would apply either in the case of no-deal Brexit or at the end of Britain’s planned transition period, which is due to end in December 2020."
"Tokyo is confident that it can secure better terms from the UK than it did in negotiations with the much larger EU, and is not willing to duplicate the existing treaty precisely in either a bilateral deal or in talks for the UK to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership group."
https://www.ft.com/content/5ce60af2-2b90-11e9-a5ab-ff8ef2b976c7
That is, of course, better terms for Japan. Worse for UK.
"Japan has agreed to extend existing trade terms for the duration of Britain’s planned transition period with the EU — but this will not apply if the UK fails to strike a deal with Brussels. It is now too late for the Japanese Diet to ratify any agreement before Brexit is scheduled to take place on March 29. There is also a wide gap in expectations about a trade accord, which would apply either in the case of no-deal Brexit or at the end of Britain’s planned transition period, which is due to end in December 2020."
"Tokyo is confident that it can secure better terms from the UK than it did in negotiations with the much larger EU, and is not willing to duplicate the existing treaty precisely in either a bilateral deal or in talks for the UK to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership group."
I cannot speak for the other two, but that is absolutely not an answer to my question, as would be blindingly obvious to anybody who actually bothered to read it properly.
The analogy is not someone giving you notice that they were not going to pay you in a certain amount of time.
The analogy is a potential customer who you know has a track record of agreeing to pay for something, and then just turning around and stiffing the person they agreed to pay, walking off saying "well too *(£&$*%( bad - I'm not paying you what I owe you".
So try again - if someone wanted you to do some work for them, and you knew that they had a record of entering into agreements and then reneging on them, walking away without paying what they owed, how keen would you be to take the job on?
Ah - you're back.
Is your position that in the absence of any withdrawal agreement we have absolutely no financial commitments, obligations, etc which have accrued during our membership?
And in what way it is "unreal", when someone says that a website tries to pass itself off as an official government information outlet, or poses as an official Government website, to ask them to explain why they think that?
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Bodd
Before I answer that question again. Tell me first do we pay the membership fee in advance to the EU or for the previous year?
I honestly do not know the answer., I'm hoping you do.
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