Sunderland gets what it voted for...

[ban-all-sheds]

There are many people out there who voted without knowing exactly what was going to happen.

Calling leave voters ignorant tends not to be popular here.

 

[EFLImpudence]

We still do not...They do seem to be revelling in the pain its causing tho,

So - it is causing pain - this planned Nirvana of yours?

,just so they can sit back,smug,and say "told you so".

No - more desperation, BUT if they can do that, then surely they WERE right.

Refuse to acknowledge what,exactly?There you go again,,,revelling in the impending doom,,,

So - there is impending doom.

get over it,,

Why? We didn't vote for it.

no cliff,,

Make up your mind.

an economic change,,are you going to adapt? Or be a forever "told you so"?...

You seem to be implying that "told you so" can apply whether the outcome is good or bad which doesn't make sense, but then...

reminiscing to your grand kids of the halcyon EU days.

Again, if that comes to be, then they WILL be right, won't they?

Otherwise I am sure we will be happy to say "We were wrong, everything is indeed wonderful now. Durhamplumber was right".

Any bets?

 

[Ihavenojob]

Well seeing as nothing is closing at Sunderland and Juke & Qashqai going ahead there is nothing to blame on Brexit.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Hence why there is a need for those unfortunate enough not to have understood what they were voting for to make their choice with up to date information as and when we get it...

Glad you're enjoying your self-appointed position. It is, however, possible to tell people without this kind of attitude:

Calling leave voters ignorant tends not to be popular here.

 

[Notch7]

Well seeing as nothing is closing at Sunderland and Juke & Qashqai going ahead there is nothing to blame on Brexit.

sshhh dont tell Ellal

 

[ellal]

Glad you're enjoying your self-appointed position.

It isn't a position of 'enjoyment', it's a position of reason...

Unless of course you believe that a decision should be based on ignorance of the facts?

 

[ellal]

Well seeing as nothing is closing at Sunderland and Juke & Qashqai going ahead there is nothing to blame on Brexit.

Of course Brexit has never had or will never have any negative effects...

We'll all be living in a land of milk and honey playing with unicorns when we leave

Meanwhile in the real world...

"Ministers are reportedly considering pulling a multi-million pound support package for Nissan after it scrapped plans to build its X-Trail model in the UK."

Two years ago the X-trail was going to be built in the UK, and now it is not going to happen...

Drop the support package/subsidy/bribe, and there will be a gradual downgrading followed by closure!

 

[sodthisforfun]

It isn't a position of 'enjoyment', it's a position of reason...

Unless of course you believe that a decision should be based on ignorance of the facts?

Yes you do, by the amount of insults you dish out. You enjoy that for sure as there is no 'reason' behind those insults or name calling. There is no need at all if just wanting to get the news stories on here.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

It is, however, possible to tell people without this kind of attitude:

Err...

I wrote that in reply to you saying that there are many people out there who voted in ignorance of exactly what was going to happen.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Two years ago the X-trail was going to be built in the UK, and now it is not going to happen...

Due to the fact that it was a diesel vehicle, and building a diesel vehicle in a market which is trying to kill them off does not make much sense. Instead, Nissan decide to build them in Japan and let Sunderland build the new Juke & Qashqai models which are more suited to this market, sod all to do with Brexit, just sound commercial reasoning. No jobs have been lost.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Err...

I wrote that in reply to you saying that there are many people out there who voted in ignorance of exactly what was going to happen.

Yes I know, and it was very polite... for you. You're not exactly kind on here to those who voted out, so it was a welcome change...
keep it up!! Lol.

 

[ellal]

Due to the fact that it was a diesel vehicle, and building a diesel vehicle in a market which is trying to kill them off does not make much sense. Instead, Nissan decide to build them in Japan

But still building them for other markets...

And given that Japan has just signed a free trade agreement with the EU (which the UK is not guaranteed to have after March), then they will be free to export to the EU whichever models are 'legal' whereas the UK is in no such position to give a similar guarantee

But of course by your reasoning Land Rover will be shutting up shop in the UK and building elsewhere for the same 'diesel' reason!

 

[Ihavenojob]

And given that Japan has just signed a free trade agreement with the EU (which the UK is not guaranteed to have after March), then they will be free to export to the EU whichever models are 'legal' whereas the UK is in no such position to give a similar guarantee

So why not build it in Spain then? they have a factory there.In fact, why not move the whole manufacturing process over there to ensure supply, according to your reasoning they should as we wont be able to export anything to europe anymore.

 

[durhamplumber]

But, but...

Quitters have been telling us all along that they knew EXACTLY what they voted for...

Funny how that when the brown stuff is getting closer and closer to the fan, the quitters are trying to re-write their own rhetoric!

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We new what we were voting for

It isn't a position of 'enjoyment', it's a position of reason...

Unless of course you believe that a decision should be based on ignorance of the facts?

Its not ignorance of facts,so much as choosing the facts which support ones own argument..No one is 100% right or wrong in the brexit debate.

 

[durhamplumber]

We are leaving the EU ...Move the argument on.