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[Roy Bloom]

Palestine Population Growth Rate 1950-2024

Chart and table of Palestine population from 1950 to 2024. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.

www.macrotrends.net

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What a strange reply.

Sillyboy should now post a similar report showing the population growth of Jews in Israel/Palestine.
Not the start, but a continuation of the mass immigration of Jews to Israel:

However the immigration of Jews to Israel has tapered off and there is a real possibility of Palestinians outnumbering Jews again.
Then came the mass slaughter of Palestinians in the last few weeks. That'll make a serious dent in the Palestinian growth rate, especially when women and children are the most numerous group killed.

Here's a population projection of the two populations, but it was prior to the current genocide committed by the Israelis.
Evidently the Israelis want to ensure their domination of the Levant.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Map 1. It wasn't 'Palestinian land' in 1947, it was British after we stole it from the Turks in WW1, the Turks had owned it since about 1500.

You don't steal land through armed conflict, you occupy it and get to administer it.
Something the Israelis need to learn.
The British Mnadate ended in May 1947, so the map is accurate prior to the partition.
John also posted a map of 1947 post partition, so he was being absolutely and academically accurate and genuine.

Map 2. Correct, what the UN offered Palestine to create their own state, they rejected it and decided instead to invade the newly formed state of Israel. Israel had accepted the UN's kind offer.

The Jews also rejected an alternative offer from the Palestinians that only Jews that were alredy there would be allowed to remain.
But eh Jews had a plan to immigrate Jews from around the world to create and bolster the state of Israel, which thye did, illegally, even before the British Mandate ended.
The UN gave away land that they didn't own and had no right to give away.
The UN does not and did not own any land.

Map 3. Correct, After the 1948 invasion, Israel held on to some land, fair enough, they won.
Map 4, correct, after the arabs invaded Israel again in 1967, the Israelis held on to some land, fair enough, they won.

You don't win, steal nor claim land by armed conflict.
You get to occupy it and administer it.
The Israelis have consistently ignored multiple UN resolutions to return the land.
So Israel kindly accepts UN resolutions when it suits, and ignores them when it suits.

Map 4 isn't quite accurate because Israel also captured the whole of Sinai, which they returned to Eqypt in 1982 after signing a peace treaty with them. Which just goes to show what can happen if you behave yourself.

You need to brush up on your geography.
The dividing line for Israel and the Sinia peninsula is nearly a verttical N-S line from Gaza to the tip of the Gulf of Aqaba.

Israel never returned Gaza to Egypt.

Israel demanded a heavy price for the return of the Sinai to Egypt- the recognition of the State of Israel.

 

[Roy Bloom]

They have been attending Israeli hospitals for years

Delays in receiving medical care can adversely affect health. The Institute of Medicine defines access to health services as “the timely use of personal health services to achieve the best health outcomes.”1 Barriers to timely care, whether in the United States or in the West Bank, are very often attributable to political processes.

In the article by McNeely et al. (p. 77), the authors argue that there are both immediate and long-term negative health consequences with “Israeli-imposed movement restrictions in the occupied Palestinian territory.”

Access to Medical Care for Palestinians in Israel: Delays in a Difficult Historical Context - PMC

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Israel-Palestine war: How and why did Gaza hospitals become primary targets?​

Israel has repeatedly targeted medical facilities and ambulances in the besieged strip, claiming they are used by Hamas, but experts are questioning the legality of the attacks
With Gaza's biggest hospital, al-Shifa, surrounded by Israeli tanks, leaving the fate of thousands of people trapped inside unknown, questions have arisen about the unprecedented focus on hospitals in the current war.
"It's a controversy of facts, and in this instance, Israel has not a shred of evidence that this is true," human rights lawyer Noura Erakat told Middle East Eye.
Erakat spoke of the "Dahiya doctrine", which took shape after Israel's 2006 war with Hezbollah in Lebanon.
The military strategy involves using disproportionate force on civilian infrastructure in territories hostile to Israel to punish its enemies, which is what the country did to Beirut’s Dahiya suburb back then.
According to Erakat, the doctrine "basically transformed civilian targets into military ones, we see the emergence of the framework of human shielding, from 2006 to the present", invoking Israel's accusations of Hamas using civilians as human shields in its bombing campaigns on the strip.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-how-did-hospitals-gaza-become-primary-targets

 

[Roy Bloom]

Israelis would pick them women & children up for medical attention

You're making up stuff now.

As well, there is the potential problem of confounding, briefly addressed by McNeely et al. (e.g., the longer one suffers from a “serious medical condition,” the more likely the need to travel for health care; the more longstanding a “serious medical condition,” the more likely one will encounter a travel restriction [longer exposure]).

Access to Medical Care for Palestinians in Israel: Delays in a Difficult Historical Context - PMC

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I'll translate that for you because I know you'll fail to understand it:

Longstanding and serious health problems for Palestinians are compunded by the more likely restrictions on travel imposed by the Israelis.

It's all a long term strategy to decimate the Palestinian population - allow their medical health to deteriorate, kill and torture them, deny them rights to property and land, imprison the young, old, women and children and torture and humiliate them.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Why? it's Palestinian population stats over 30 years or so. It's all very well the usual suspects telling us how many Palestinians are being driven out of their homeland, but surely if that were the case, wouldn't that show the Palestinian population to be falling rather than rising exponentially year on year.

The Israelis are concerned that the Palestinian population growth rate is static, whereas the Jewish population growth rate is falling.
If the Israelis are not careful the Palestinian population could equal the Israeli population and they wouldn't want that.
A bit of genocide and forced evacuation, imprisoning, and torture will sort that concern.

John, they didn't have a country, Britain gave it all away to the UN to be divvied up between the Jews and the arabs, on the condition they both respected each others right to a nationhood and the right to exist.
The Israelis said OK, thank you very much, the arabs said **** off, we want war.

It wasn't Britain's to give away. It was Palestine, and had been for a long, long time.
Britain could have asked UN to administer it, but they can't give it away.
UN doesn't own any land so they have none to give away.
UN was supposed to be administering Jerusalem, but the Israelis took it.
Then the Israelis have operated an apartheid regime ever since, seriously discriminating against Palestinians.

Abortions are a big reason for hospital time in Israel, abortions are illegal in Palestine. In Palestine, if they found out a woman had an abortion, she'd be thrown off a rooftop with the homos.
Delightful people really.

Not much different to Ireland, NI and rest of UK, then.
Except in Ireland and NI you could end up in prison for 14 years.
In Palestine the penalty is 1 to 3 years in prison. It is not being thrown off a rooftop. More fake information from silliyboy.
So blind is his bigotry he invents false information, regularly. So blind is his bigotry he even resorts to offensive words for LBGT people.

a woman who has an illegal abortion could face 1 to 3 years' imprisonment.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0WA1V9/

 

[Deleted member 294929]

You're making up stuff now.

Access to Medical Care for Palestinians in Israel: Delays in a Difficult Historical Context - PMC

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I'll translate that for you because I know you'll fail to understand it:

I suppose it's who's propaganda or truth we believe. Let's face it known of us really know.

 

[Vinty]

The latter, obviously

At least the Israelis gave the Palestinians advance warning of their attacks unlike the Hamas savages.

If civilians are warned in advance,whwhere so many being killed.

 

[Odds]

 

[Vinty]

You make it sound like Israel only picked on them because they were small. If Syria Egypt & Jordan come to their rescue , do you think they would last longer than six days ?




Israel also had Spitfires.

They also shot down British spitfires.

 

[Roy Bloom]

You've made a right pig's ear of that, Bod.
It should look like this:

You're making up stuff now.

Access to Medical Care for Palestinians in Israel: Delays in a Difficult Historical Context - PMC

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I'll translate that for you because I know you'll fail to understand it:
Longstanding and serious health problems for Palestinians are compunded by the more likely restrictions on travel imposed by the Israelis.

I suppose it's who's propaganda or truth we believe. Let's face it known of us really know.

Or even this:

You're making up stuff now.

Access to Medical Care for Palestinians in Israel: Delays in a Difficult Historical Context - PMC

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I'll translate that for you because I know you'll fail to understand it:
Longstanding and serious health problems for Palestinians are compunded by the more likely restrictions on travel imposed by the Israelis.
It's all a long term strategy to decimate the Palestinian population - allow their medical health to deteriorate, kill and torture them, deny them rights to property and land, imprison the young, old, women and children and torture and humiliate them.

I suppose it's who's propaganda or truth we believe. Let's face it known of us really know.

 

[Roy Bloom]

I'd struggle to answer that John.
Just seems like a lot of blue sky.

That's because the system's syntax leaves you totally befuddled.

Like most intelligent posts really.

 

[Roy Bloom]

You seem unable to grasp the fact the Palestinians didn't have the land in the first place.

Explain tnat one.
Under the British Mandate Palestinians owned their property. The Jews forced them out of that property.

In 1948, more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs – about half of prewar Mandatory Palestine's Arab population – fled from their homes or were expelled by Zionist militias

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

Note that, "about half of prewar Mandatory Palestine's Arab population"

There was no UN resolution for that, nor would there ever have been.

 

[Roy Bloom]

You seem unable to grasp the fact the Palestinians didn't have the land in the first place.

But when Israel acquired nuclear weapons the West was strangely silent.
Yet it is Israel that has been proven to be the genocidal, apartheid-operating, aggressive nation.
Wandering the world assasinating whoever it wants, where ever it wants.
When Russia does that, all hell breaks loose.
Double standards again.

 

[Roy Bloom]

many of the arabs and bedouins wouldn't have cared to be called Palestinians.

More made up sillyboy imaginations.

 

[JohnD]

the Palestinians didn't have the land in the first place.

you seem to think you know more about Palestinians than they do.