That 9/11 programme last night

[Steve]

Wow.

There were a lot of talking points in this programme. I appreciate the point was a seamless account of the events of the day, but it would have been nice to see different views of the second plane, the towers collapsing etc.

When you see these things from a distance, you dont get a real perspective of how big they are. But up close to those towers, the people with cameras looking up, you begin to realise the sheer size of them, and the massive difficulty in putting out a fire that high. (by perspective i mean from a distance that 747 could have been a cessna etc)

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, but was there any real point in sending rescue teams into the buildings? Wasn't it inevitable that the buildings were going to collapse, given two commercial airliners had just destroyed one side of both buildings, causing massive fire and heat? Did they not seek advice from structural specialists? Perhaps those that built the place? Wasn't it obvious that the people above the plane strikes were beyond help? It makes me wonder what I'd have done if i were stuck up there, go up (i wonder how many were on the roof?) or stay put?

 

[oompah]

By perspective i mean from a distance that 747 could have been a cessna etc

Must of been out of perspective because the planes were 767's

 

[Steve]

Must of been out of perspective because the planes were 767's

You know what i mean.

 

[wotan]

I could understand one of the towers collapsing, but not both of them, the first tower to be hit was impacted high up, so there should have not been the massive weight to act as a piledriver.
The second tower I can understand, it still does not say much for the integrity of American skyscrapers though.
I subscribe to the enemy within theory, too many unanswered questions.

Wotan

 

[namsag]

Steve do some research .
They were designed to with stand planes crashing into them so no reason for safety teams not to try and save lives . Which they did

Good job it was not those guys who refused to go down a ditch in this country who turned up.

All that dust ,asbestos etc breathed in wait and see the deaths that will result in it ,Already started

 

[regsmyth]

I subscribe to the enemy within theory

You'd better watch what you say, they'll be watching you closely....

They don't want people trying to think for themselves y'know.

Sshhh.

 

[wotan]

I am probably already on their watch list, one day the truth will come out, anyway I am one of millions who hold that belief.

A crime so heinous, that it's unbelievable, that is what they would have us believe.

 

[oompah]

Wonderful bit of choreography to get them both to collapse straight down Mr Dibnah would have been proud.

 

[Trazor]

I subscribe to the enemy within theory, too many unanswered questions.

I subscribe to the......... how the hell can you design a building to withstand the impact of a fully laden and fuelled 767 without testing.
The theory obviously didn't work.

Would not be surprised to find out however, that the plane which crashed in Pennsylvania, was shot down to prevent it reaching a City.

 

[toptec]

I subscribe to the enemy within theory, too many unanswered questions.

What planet in Devon do you live Wotan?

Do you reckon the Moon Landings were a sham too? What about that B52 found on the moon - that a conspiracy too?

 

[joe-90]

If it happened to Canary Wharf our crews would take three weeks doing a risk assessment and hoping it would fall down before they had to make a decision.

 

[Steve]

It is truly a miracle of modern engineering that the two buildings stood for an hour with airliners lodged in them. The theory worked, and the structure held long enough for people to evacuate, BUT they couldn't due to the planes breaching the core of the building.

 

[joe-90]

Are you on drugs? The airliners disintegrated upon impact. The reason they collapsed was due to the failure of the steels that hung across. There was a proggie on TV about a year or two ago on the mechanics of why they collapsed.

 

[sooey]

Yeah the steel failed because the spray on fire retardent stuff wasn't applied very rigorously, apparently. At those temperatures though I suppose it must have failed eventually, even if it had been.

 

[oompah]

Before any one poo poo's any conspiracy theories just remember the Cottingley fairy pictures.They were taken in 1917 but took 60 odd years to be proven as fakes.Will it be 60yrs before this incident is put to bed?