The cost of one hospital under Labour.

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I’ve just seen this regarding our local hospital, Queens at Romford. I don’t know if it’s true but feck me, what a bad deal we got!

"Construction began in June 2003. It was completed in October 2006 and went operational the following month.
The capital cost of the building was £266m.
The PFI deal is for 34 yearsThe PFI contract bundles the payment to the private sector as a single ('unitary') charge for both the initial capital spend and the ongoing maintenance and operation costs.
The first payment was made in 2006/07 for £13m. This was only for part of the year, the following year the payment was £42m. The sum each year has gone up with the payment in 2019/20 totaling £63.8m. To date £688.2m has been paid.
Payments continue to rise with £98.6m due in 2038/39 and then a final payment of £80m in 2039/40.
The total sum paid to build a £266m hospital and the unitary charge over 34 years will total £2,281.5m. Yes just under £2.3 Billion.
So when i hear people try and say it's the Tories you have to laugh. This hospital was conceived, built, financed and opened all under Labour. Payments have been made for 15 years so we're not even half way through.
Payments on current contracts in force run until 2059/60.
What i don't have is what would have been the cost in the government has financed the built themselves and operated and maintain the hospital themselves.
One thing that has come to mind. By keeping these figures off the books, it enable Labour to say they were putting in more money in the NHS than was strictly true as it did not take into account these payments and the staggering future liabilities. If you take out a mortgage you pay the same amount in principle each month adjusted to the interest rate. But here we see a payment of £42m at the start is now 50% more and will almost hit £100m in the final years. That is complete madness."
 
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PFI has created a huge long term problem for the NHS.
Introduced by Major, expanded by Blair and Cameron.

Yes Labour are as much to blame.

I bet servives at Romford are squeezed because so much of the budget goes on PFI.

PFI is a good example of what happens with privatisation: it doesnt improve efficiency, it means money goes to shareholders.

If you want to stop privatisation, dont vote for Conservatives: these nice fat contracts go to their mates.
 
Hospitals are expensive. Nothing to do with who was in government when the first plans were drawn up or bricks laid. I know a civil engineer who has been working on the new hospital for about 10 years already. They take a lot of time and money to build.

Barts reconstruction cost £1.1bn, and I assume a lot of the equipment was reused. The cost of a hospital is obviously more than just the building - an MRI costs almost a million.
They're not cheap, and that's with excellent trade deals with other countries that supply all the machines!
 
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Jezza's money tree will pay for it all if he gets in, don't worry. Everything's fine.
 
Surely if a contract is unfair, it can be cancelled by the courts ?
You would think so.



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I’ve just seen this regarding our local hospital, Queens at Romford. I don’t know if it’s true but feck me, what a bad deal we got!
I don't know the exact figures, but you seem on the right track...

PFI loan repayments cost trust running Queen's Hospital £52million last year

(That's for 2015)

PFI was a disgrace, and as has been already been said whilst introduced by the tories it was expanded by labour...

A bit like academisation (privatisation) of our schools, introduced by labour and expanded by the tories...

So what is the real difference between the colour shades of our 'ruling elite' once they gain power?

On the NHS/PFI issue, the other associated costs are crazy too...

Our local hospital had to pay £2 for a 16 pack of paracetamol and £16 per ream of A4 paper to the monopoly provider.

And when they had a replacement TV aerial put up for the nurses rest room, it cost a £1000 when it used to be the maintenance person putting up a £30 argos special within their job description...

The UK is not known amongst the corporates as 'treasure island' for nothing!



 
£16 per ream of A4 paper to the monopoly provider.

And when they had a replacement TV aerial put up for the nurses rest room, it cost a £1000 when it used to be the maintenance person putting up a £30 argos special within their job description.

Thats shocking.

Its as bad as a Thailand jet ski scam or mafia protection money.
 
Jezza's money tree will pay for it all if he gets in, don't worry. Everything's fine.
And as Boris has just pledged tax cuts, we shall presume that he's either getting the money from all the promises he has made from the same money tree, or taking more from the poor.
 
And as Boris has just pledged tax cuts, we shall presume that he's either getting the money from all the promises he has made from the same money tree, or taking more from the poor.
Sorry I missed that. Is Boris now plegding billions to pay for nationalisation and free stuff for everyone?
 
Is Boris now plegding billions to pay for nationalisation
No, he's pledging to spaff billions up the wall...

What many in this country fail to understand is that if you pay out on nationalisation you gain assets, not lose them...

Our more enlightened European neighbours understand this, and that is why they bought up a large percentage of UK public services after privatisation!
 
Its not the concept of 'Privatisation' that should be slated, but those who agree the 'Contract' to pay out extortionate fees which are to blame.
 
Sorry I missed that. Is Boris now plegding billions to pay for nationalisation and free stuff for everyone?
He's certainly saying that he's doing more for hospitals, the police, transport.
Where's that money going to come from?

Oh yes, they'll borrow it! Or take from the poor.
 
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