Those who killed baby P

[imamartian]

Of interest to those who wanted to know what they look like:

http://www.blinkx.com/video/justice-4-baby-p/P_tFRWTI0Dqk5W95DQyO0g

The video may be taken down so if the link is dead, sorry.

Wow!!! This had me in tears !!!
I accept we live with a justice system, but it really doesn't seem to work when you look into that baby's eyes.
Softus, you can be a complete and utter t*sser sometimes... do something? what can i do? I have nothing but complete hatred for those scumbags... what would you do if you got to you mothers house to find her being raped by two teenagers with hooded tops on? Would you do a citizens arrest on them using reasonable force and wait for the police?
I doubt it....

And what is so wrong with the baying mob thing? This kind of baying mob thing is full of decent people who would string up these evil perverts, torture and kill them before logging on to the internet to pay their tv licence, or move their car because it was parked in a restricted area when they started the torturing.
Society needs a sense of retribution to get back a feeling of fairness.... or we're left with someone who murders his child and claims his human rights are infringed because his prison cell is too magnolia !!!

And do you know what bugs me.... i have spoken to quite a few people in the past couple of weeks who when you say "have you seen the baby P story", they say "no.... i couldn't read it".....and these are the people who don't want the death penalty.... because they don't understand that 17month old babies in this civilised country, are having the tips of their fingers sliced off with razor blades, so their finger nails can be grabbed with pliers and ripped off !!!!!!

They pretect themselves from the horrors and inadvertently pretect the scum from what they deserve.... make yourself put the words "Ken, biggley,video" into google and see what you are ultimately responsible for !

 

[Softus]

It's everyone's fault that these people were allowed the freedom to do what they did..

Idealistic nonsense.

That's the standard idiotic response to a dose of realism.

 

[Trazor]

It's everyone's fault that these people were allowed the freedom to do what they did..

Idealistic nonsense.

That's the standard idiotic response to a dose of realism.

Do you honestly believe that everyone, is responsible for the actions of everyone else.

Well I'm sorry for allowing you to post that reply.

 

[Estrella]

Well I'm sorry for allowing you to post that reply.

LOL

 

[Softus]

Do you honestly believe that everyone, is responsible for the actions of everyone else.

No.

Nor have I ever said such a thing.

 

[Trazor]

Do you honestly believe that everyone, is responsible for the actions of everyone else.

No.
Nor have I ever said such a thing.

it's everyone's fault that these people were allowed the freedom to do what they did.

Perhaps you would care to extrapolate.

 

[Softus]

Frankly, trazor, I'm not interested in your shenanigans, so go and waste someone else's time.

 

[toptec]

Oh Softus - I'm slightly disappointed in you..........

 

[Trazor]

go and waste someone else's time.

OK, I'm off to do that.......Please remember that it's your partly your fault that I am allowed to do it.......

 

[ellal]

Please note rule 1 (Abusive or unhelpful posts are not welcome.)

Except of course when posted by a certain person ?...

 

[Shutpa]

Please note rule 1 (Abusive or unhelpful posts are not welcome.)

Except of course when posted by a certain person ?...

In spite of the wink, I get the impression that you are of the opinion that the mods and/or admin, are less heavy handed when a particular individual is abusive or unhelpful. Am I right in thinking this, and if so, what evidence do you have to back up your claim?

 

[ellal]

In spite of the wink, I get the impression that you are of the opinion that the mods and/or admin, are less heavy handed when a particular individual is abusive or unhelpful. Am I right in thinking this, and if so, what evidence do you have to back up your claim?

The evidence is all around...

So here's an extra...

 

[Blasphemous]

This thread is far too sensitive, emotional and important to be sidelined by what I see as a petty squabble. The case deserves everyones attention and should not be allowed to drift off into some debate of what MODS do and/or do not do here. That is another debate for another thread IMO.

 

[oompah]

Why are their names withheld?
Does anyone know?.

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Softus




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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:34 pm Post Subject:



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[Some courts have the jurisdiction to make an order for anonymity for all or any of the defendants.

Before doing so, a court must be satisfied that if no such order were made, either the administration of justice would be seriously affected or there is a real and immediate risk risk to the life of any of the defendants. The latter reason recognises Article 2 of the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, and the state’s obligation to take reasonable steps towards preventing loss of life.

Basically, the defendants are at risk of being lynched, or facing an unfair trial, if their identities are not withheld at this stage.quote]

You seemed to know the answer when the question was raised before.

 

[Softus]

Why are their names withheld?
Does anyone know?

Basically, the defendants are at risk of being lynched, or facing an unfair trial, if their identities are not withheld at this stage.

You seemed to know the answer when the question was raised before.

So which of the two alternatives that I listed was the one given by the court?