****** to be obliterated from our history!

[conny]

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The word is only used to offend people. This is a world famous dog and part of our historical heritage.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-53436447

 

[Stivino]

What was its name?

 

[sodthisforfun]

If memory serves me right, it was the 'N' word.

 

[mitch66]

One of my black mates at the gym calls me that. "Alright my ******" he says. Bloody racist

 

[Mottie]

Our next door neighbour in the sixties had a dog with that name. Lots of people had dogs with that name back then.

 

[SirGalahad]

Mods, please DO NOT CLOSE THIS THREAD! Follow it closely by all means but remove inappropriate comments which may take it off topic.

The word is only used to offend people. This is a world famous dog and part of our historical heritage.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-53436447

N I G G E R

The dog has gained more fame now after this.

The dog will still be part of history.

 

[Ihavenojob]

One of my black mates at the gym calls me that. "Alright my ******" he says. Bloody racist

That's right, blacks can say it with impunity, white's get labelled racist if they use the word, surely that's racial discrimination ? the dog in the film has a memorial plaque outside the air base, the last time I saw the film on TV (Ch 4) was only a year or two ago, and they DIDN'T edit the word out, which, for a leftie channel, was unusual.

 

[IT Minion]

That's right, blacks can say it with impunity, white's get labelled racist if they use the word, surely that's racial discrimination ? the dog in the film has a memorial plaque outside the air base, the last time I saw the film on TV (Ch 4) was only a year or two ago, and they DIDN'T edit the word out, which, for a leftie channel, was unusual.

Words have different meanings given context.

The use of that word even by black people is not universally agreed by black people either. Not least because it gives arseholes (to be clear, not aimed at you ihavenojob) an excuse to keep using it.

Leaving it on a tomb stone in big capital letters would be pretty shocking for anyone who hasn't read up on a minor part of history that walks past it.

 

[Brigadier]

I have my opinion on this sort of thing but, as I haven't had to put up with the shoite that I know some of my black mates have, it doesn't have much weight. The subject as a whole is far, far bigger than the name of a dog.

"Walk a mile in my shoes" and all that.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Who decides that a certain word has become offensive ? Take the word chinky, who has ever used that to cause offence? It has, for years, been part of the vernacular and as far as I am aware, is , or never was, used in spite.

 

[Tigercubrider]

"Chinky" was certainly used in spite.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinky

Personally, I would have left the stone where it is, perhaps having an explanation of context alongside.
Last time I watched the film, I listened for the word and as far as I remember it's actually quite easy to to a "drop in" edit every time the name is used to "fix" the film so it wouldn't affect the enjoyment of the film.

You'd treat it the same way as pre watershed "****" and simply overwrite the original sound with a bit of ambient "room tone" (the lips move but no words come out) or use a voice artist to dub the new name - chosen to fit the syllable count.

 

[Ihavenojob]

or use a voice artist to dub the new name - chosen to fit the syllable count.

Like melon or maggot farmer, or in Robo Cop, "why me why me why me" (armed robber in shop). But in Dambusters recently on TV, they didn't edit the name out, they realised its significance. The link you give, why do they state it was "offensive slang" ? Slang, yes, but who thinks it's offensive, I never did, until I was told by someone, I had even used it in Chinese takeaways, speaking with staff, them even saying "oh, you really like your chinky food".

 

[motorbiking]

Nigel?

 

[Notch7]

I have my opinion on this sort of thing but, as I haven't had to put up with the shoite that I know some of my black mates have, it doesn't have much weight. The subject as a whole is far, far bigger than the name of a dog.

"Walk a mile in my shoes" and all that.

Wise words.

The problem with racism is that any one event is trivial, but a black person getting name calling, backhanded comments etc over a lifetime has an effect. It's very very difficult to legalisate against.

Ironically dogs aren't racist, golden retrievers don't discriminate against chocolate labs

 

[^woody^]

Leaving it on a tomb stone in big capital letters would be pretty shocking for anyone who hasn't read up on a minor part of history that walks past it.

WTF you on about. It was the dog's name. His name.