****** to be obliterated from our history!

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Again, for someone who doesn't care, you do arf go on.

Only as long as others go on.
If I did care so much about whether Guy Gibson was seen as a racist, maybe I would have started a discussion about it.
But I don't, and I didn't.
I do have a strong opinion, and agree wholeheartedly with the decision of the RAF.
Please don't conflate the two separate issues.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Duplicate post

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

There was nothing ambiguous about his comment, you were unable to read/follow the conversation.. Normal response would be to admit a mistake, but you can never ever be wrong can you? You look like a right muppet with your response above.

You've descended into insults again. That usually means one thing.
You've demonstrated multiple times that you cannot hold a discussion without descending into insults.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

A link for Bobby

Thank you. But it's of little use.
Do you have a more appropriate link for a similar organisation in France, or even Portugal?

Have you made your views known to the website editors?

Black Lives Matter – a message from the Chair and CEO
18 June 2020
The worldwide protests that have followed the killing of George Floyd have prompted many of us to reflect on what we as individuals and organisations are doing to end racism and discrimination in our society.

The Ramblers is built on the belief that everyone deserves the right to experience the joy of walking outdoors. And it is also our duty as a membership organisation and an employer, to do all we can to ensure we are a truly diverse and inclusive place to work, volunteer and join.

So, we wanted to take this opportunity to say to all our supporters, but particularly those of you who have been personally affected by racism or discrimination in any form, that we stand in solidarity and support with you.

We know actions speak louder than words and that we have some way to go to be a truly diverse organisation and to achieve our ambitions around fairer access to the outdoors for everyone - but we are listening and learning and want to improve.

As a start, we will be organising a series of listening groups involving staff and volunteers from across the organisation. If you have any questions, please email us at
​

 

[sodthisforfun]

You've descended into insults again. That usually means one thing.
You've demonstrated multiple times that you cannot hold a discussion without descending into insults.

Ah, deflection, that usually means one thing... that you're too cowardly to admit any fault as well as not hold a discussion because you have comprehension issues.


And I enjoy the fact that you ignore all your patronising and incorrect comments while complaining about being insulted!

 

[sodthisforfun]

Thank you. But it's of little use.
Do you have a more appropriate link for a similar organisation in France, or even Portugal?

Have you made your views known to the website editors?

Black Lives Matter – a message from the Chair and CEO
18 June 2020
The worldwide protests that have followed the killing of George Floyd have prompted many of us to reflect on what we as individuals and organisations are doing to end racism and discrimination in our society.

The Ramblers is built on the belief that everyone deserves the right to experience the joy of walking outdoors. And it is also our duty as a membership organisation and an employer, to do all we can to ensure we are a truly diverse and inclusive place to work, volunteer and join.

So, we wanted to take this opportunity to say to all our supporters, but particularly those of you who have been personally affected by racism or discrimination in any form, that we stand in solidarity and support with you.

We know actions speak louder than words and that we have some way to go to be a truly diverse organisation and to achieve our ambitions around fairer access to the outdoors for everyone - but we are listening and learning and want to improve.

As a start, we will be organising a series of listening groups involving staff and volunteers from across the organisation. If you have any questions, please email us at
​

Doesn't matter how much you talk about BLM, it hasn't anything to do with what EFL wrote.
The clue was the title of this thread let alone what EFL wrote!!

 

[Brigadier]

If you're aware of Guy Gibson's intolerant political and social views, you would know the answer to your own question.

You have no logical answer then.

 

[Brigadier]

........ how about dishonourable discharge for GG? Would send the message you're after.

After all , GG's views were intolerant.....

If you're aware of Guy Gibson's intolerant political and social views....

 

[transam]

No they don't

Idiots are driven by emotion not evidence, that's why they are easily manipulated.

Hang on a minute

I am. Not easily manipulated

Well afaik any way

 

[conny]

Ok Mods. You can close this thread now seeing as the children won't behave as requested.

Thank you for keeping it open in an attempt to see if people could actually stay on topic without dragging all manner of meaningless references to other subjects.

MOD: As you wish.