Tomato Paperwork

[ellal]

So go on then...

Show us how your fruit and veg prices are dearer than ever...

You won't because you can't!

Oh dear...

Mr Swervy can't back up his claims...

Even the government admits that food inflation is running rampant...

mottie/motman is simply a laughing stock!

And do tell us mottie/motman, how's it going with coming up with even one teeny weeny 'brexit benefit'?

 

[Odds]

Only when we have a glut. Currently we have a glut.

You have a glut?
There's an ointment for that, i think.
See a doctor.

 

[Mottie]

Mr Swervy can't back up his claims...

Ironic that that’s your reply to a question I asked you.

 

[Brigadier]

Third world, more like.

I thought we were the land of milk and honey?

 

[Notch7]

this is why weve got no tomatoes:

"They're just not coming, are they. Why would they? Why tie up wagons and drivers importing/exporting with UK, risk potentially days of dalay & a spoiled load, when you can sell/buy in 27 member countries as easily as shelling peas? We did say this would happen..."

 

[Notch7]

Mr McMahon’s statement does not say that 20% of all EU checks take place in the Irish Sea. He says that, based on a calculation, 20% of documentary SPS checks take place in NI – i.e. that one fifth of a certain subcategory of a certain type of check take place here.

When asked to provide details of how this calculation was made, a DAERA spokesperson said: “The AERA Committee was advised that from Jan-March 2021, evidence received from the EU TRACES database indicated that the volume of checks for products of animal origin at NI POE constituted approx 20% of the EU total.”


When the DUP’s claim was put to the European Commission (EC), they said they were unable to categorically confirm or deny the statement, saying that, “Our UK partners have not provided us with any information on this matter but we are aware that different statistics have been cited in the media.”

thank you for admitting you were wrong

 

[Notch7]

I agree with most of what you say. Except, unfortunately the same people who invented Brexit are the same ones who have presided over the sale of many of our companies and industries that were worth having. The same politicians again want to make us even more reliant on foreign food producers by rewilding the countryside and importing substandard, low welfare meat from the other side of the world with trade deals that damage our own farmers. Politicians, mainly Tory in these cases, are the problem - not the solution.

Its quite grim really

the politicians that persuaded people they were voting to take back control, are the same politicians that spent years taking control away from the UK

Its madness that our key infrastructure is now owned by foreign entities


I do find it sad that when visiting Europe, like France for example they seem to have retained their culture, their identity, the high streets in France arent full of chains stores.

we seem to be a country of chavs fighting in Primark for tat

 

[ellal]

Ironic that that’s your reply to a question I asked you.

Funnily enough...

Just a simple example...

From your beloved ONS by the way...

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Oh OK then,

See how food prices compare to 30 years ago and you might be surprised - Which? News

Just one food of those we investigated is actually more expensive today

www.which.co.uk

See how food prices compare to 30 years ago and you might be surprised​

Just one food of those we investigated is actually more expensive today

New Which? research shows that in the UK we actually spend less on food than previous generations did, and many popular foods are cheaper now than they were 30 years ago.

In the 1950s we spent a third of our income on food shopping, but in 1974 this had gone down to 24%. By 2016 food shopping accounted for just 10.5% of our income.

Use our supermarket price comparison to get the best deal on your shopping.

Globally, after Singapore and the US, the UK spends the lowest proportion of household income on food shopping, lower than our European neighbours Germany, France and Spain.

We've compared how much popular foods cost in 1988 with the equivalent cost in today's money, accounting for inflation, and the actual cost in June 2019. All foods we investigated are cheaper to buy now, apart from white fish.
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That's from 2019, and that wasn't the claim made. You've not supported the claim, just swerved.

latest figures show that fruit and veg prices have risen by around 17% in the last year alone ( although most of us would say much more than that). Inflation has been around 10% by the same figures. So by anybody's calculations they have risen virtually twice as fast as inflation in the last year.

that means the claim made is obviously wrong. So stop the childish insults and accept reality.

 

[wobs]

Some blokes on tv said that there are thousands of acres of land in kent, covered by greenhouses in which they can grow whatever they want.
Why do we buy tomatoes and other veg from abroad then?
The veg we import are not even of good quality and if you don't believe me, have a holiday in the south of Europe and taste a tomato there.

Better for the environment to import from Spain, than to grow in a greenhouse in Kent (or elsewhere in the UK), a the carbon footprint is far lower. Another advantage of the single market.

 

[johnny2007]

many professional workers earn more in EU than UK

food banks or no food banks

Is that why most consultants, accountants, engineers, solicitors and nurses are immigrants?
Why are they here?
The weather is bad, workers conditions are bad, wages are lower than other EU countries and food cost more.
Why? Why? Why are they staying here???
Maybe you should look at the NET income instead of the gross.
I know doctors in EU countries who earn more than doctors in UK (gross).
Once you apply tax and other deductions they end up with far less.
Again, I personally know many professionals who despite criticising the UK at every opportunity, don't leave.
And they have enough money to go elsewhere and continue their profession.

Better for the environment to import from Spain, than to grow in a greenhouse in Kent (or elsewhere in the UK), a the carbon footprint is far lower. Another advantage of the single market.

Don't know about that.
If you ask mr khant, he'll tell you that hgvs burning diesel are the worst thing for the environment.
Greenhouses are run on natural gas if I'm not mistaken.
Do we follow the latest trend in climate boll@x or it depends on whether it suits the argument?

 

[wobs]

Don't know about that.
If you ask mr khant, he'll tell you that hgvs burning diesel are the worst thing for the environment.
Greenhouses are run on natural gas if I'm not mistaken.
Do we follow the latest trend in climate boll@x or it depends on whether it suits the argument?

Carbon footprint of growing in a commercial greenhouse in the UK is greater than importing from Spain. Spain grows them in poly tunnels without the need for heating. This is why its better for the environment.

Climate change is an issue.

Diesel from HGVs don't come into the equation.

 

[johnny2007]

Carbon footprint of growing in a commercial greenhouse in the UK is greater than importing from Spain. Spain grows them in poly tunnels without the need for heating. This is why its better for the environment.

Climate change is an issue.

Diesel from HGVs don't come into the equation.

Tell that to mr khant.
He's creating poverty in london based on that claim.

 

[wobs]

Tell that to mr khant.
He's creating poverty in london based on that claim.

Based on what claim? He isn't stopping food to be imported. His stance on diesel in London has no bearing on this, that's what you're referring to..

 

[Brigadier]

Tell that to mr khant.
He's creating poverty in london based on that claim.

You're getting mixed up.

Diesel HGVs (and your Audi) mean almost zip with regard to climate change.

They do, however, mean something with regard to air quality.
That is why we have ultra-low emission zones.



As a friend once succinctly put it, "The solution to pollution is dilution".
Because you and 12 million-odd (or is that 12 million odd? ) people choose to live at a high population density, so too will their emissions be similarly concentrated.
You all wallow in each others' discharges.

Geddit?