Tony Blair

[Freddie]

I never voted him in, what's your excuse?

So who would you vote in and why, no one so far has come up with a factual good reason to change the government, or the best alternative.

I vote Labour, mainly to keep the Tories in opposition and because i do not see a viable alternative at the moment

You vote someone in who is completely useless and causes more problems than they solve just to keep someone else from not getting in

So you dont agree with anyone but vote to stop other people getting who they want

At the last election because the system is rigged the party with the most votes couldnt get in and the party that only 25% of availiable voters could vote for got in--a minority goverment.

Too be honest crystal ball i dont know why you stay there unless it is to spite everybody else, with people with your attitude the country is certainly doomed

 

[carpenter les]

better the devil you know !!! im not a labour voter but i admire blair , been reading his biography recently.... i dont agree with everything the govenment has done , but they have done some good things ..example , nhs direct( if you have baby or young child this is superb ) blair seems ok to me its just the system where they vote against( back bench rebels) on a good idea just to make a stand against him and belittle him , even though its against the good of the country

 

[Freddie]

better the devil you know !!! im not a labour voter but i admire blair , been reading his biography recently.... i dont agree with everything the govenment has done , but they have done some good things ..example , nhs direct( if you have baby or young child this is superb ) blair seems ok to me its just the system where they vote against( back bench rebels) on a good idea just to make a stand against him and belittle him , even though its against the good of the country

Then your blinkered, and if you believe something thats written on him on behalf of him then remember the Nazi Goerbals from WW2.

If you are going to tell a lie, tell a big one, because if you tell it often enough, people will believe it.

 

[carpenter les]

its a book about his upbringing and his meeting cherie blair and getting into the labour party not labour properganda ...considering you dont know my political beleifs its a bit rich of you to say im blinkered btw my next biography is going to be maggie thatcher , so whats you thoughts on that ??? am i a coal mining hating, poll tax loving ,argie bashing ,council house buying, milk denying, house repossesing, 15% mortgage rate ,1 in ten unemployed , union bashing, tory lover???

 

[joe-90]

better the devil you know !!! im not a labour voter but i admire blair , been reading his biography recently.... i dont agree with everything the govenment has done , but they have done some good things ..example , nhs direct( if you have baby or young child this is superb ) blair seems ok to me its just the system where they vote against( back bench rebels) on a good idea just to make a stand against him and belittle him , even though its against the good of the country

But NHS direct is run by a bunch of nurses. They can't even give 'proper' prescriptions.

They should be able to and I find them better than the average GP who is nothing but a very expensive triage operative.

joe

 

[carpenter les]

nhs direct has helped us lots of times when we had 2 new babies , great for peice of mind when you are inexperienced with children etc

 

[joe-90]

nhs direct has helped us lots of times when we had 2 new babies , great for peice of mind when you are inexperienced with children etc

I agree. I'd rather see less expensive doctors and more trained nurses as in NHS direct. They've always been great when we've used them.



joe

 

[Freddie]

its a book about his upbringing and his meeting cherie blair and getting into the labour party not labour properganda ...considering you dont know my political beleifs its a bit rich of you to say im blinkered btw my next biography is going to be maggie thatcher , so whats you thoughts on that ??? am i a coal mining hating, poll tax loving ,argie bashing ,council house buying, milk denying, house repossesing, 15% mortgage rate ,1 in ten unemployed , union bashing, tory lover???

You idiot if you cant read or take it dont step in it.

I'm not critisising your politics,

 

[Freddie]

nhs direct has helped us lots of times when we had 2 new babies , great for peice of mind when you are inexperienced with children etc

Well if that's what you base your fact findings on--god help us.!!

 

[carpenter les]

firstly i didnt say he was a good bloke ,i actually said i admired him , he has acheived a lot in his life up to now , family and careers , and secondly i dont think that there is any need for personal insults ( on another thread) if you cant take debate without name calling yuove missed the point of a forum !!! also please elaberate ( without immature comments) on the god help us comments ???

 

[Freddie]

firstly i didnt say he was a good bloke ,i actually said i admired him , he has acheived a lot in his life up to now , family and careers , and secondly i dont think that there is any need for personal insults ( on another thread) if you cant take debate without name calling yuove missed the point of a forum !!! also please elaberate ( without immature comments) on the god help us comments ???

Quite simple--you praise something from one experience ie a lone voice in the wilderness.

I wish the NHS would work butTB has had 8 years and it still looks like it's falling apart at the expence of other countries ( robbing staff ).

To be honest they thought they could justify taxing you loads to pay for it, but unfortunatley for them the NHS still is broken so the excuse for high tax falls apart.

 

[carpenter les]

the nhs is a mess and has been for as long as i can remember , whichever govenment is in power, BUT in the nhs defence , if you take a child in you can jump the queue and they see them straight away, and when my new born baby was 2 weeks old she was took ill and was admitted to hospital straight away and well looked after