Trumps executive orders are Project 2025 in action

[carmanmemoranda]

I am.

We know.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

There will be some fear no doubt, I suspect fear of failure rather than fear of The Donald. Didn't the IMF suggest this week that for the EU to have any meaningful growth it needs to act more like America, something like that, I'll try and find the article.

I don't think it's fear

It is bemusement.

Did you see the Icelandic mp? Edit, danish mp

 

[MNW67]

I've been reading more comments on the Telegraph website, mainly sycophantic towards Trump, but they draw the line at his threats towards Denmark. Many point out that Denmark stood with the USA in Afghanistan and took the heaviest pro rata casualties (something I didn't know). Also, mixed in with the adulation for Trump's deal making skills, somebody pointed that his business deals usually end up going tits up. Which I thought introduced a nice dose of realism.

 

[MNW67]

There will be some fear no doubt, I suspect fear of failure rather than fear of The Donald. Didn't the IMF suggest this week that for the EU to have any meaningful growth it needs to act more like America, something like that, I'll try and find the article.

I saw something similar in the Guardian about EU's lacklustre growth.

 

[denso13]

his business deals usually end up going tits up

That's his favourite bit...

 

[carmanmemoranda]

That's his favourite bit...

Gas will tell you how good they are

 

[gas112]

He isn't a Trump supporter though...

But he is still living in both your heads rent free.

 

[gas112]

Gas will tell you how good they are

Did you make 5 billion over night ?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Nope. Never lost more than I inherited. (All my achievements in life have been totally self made.) Never been investigated for tax. Never been to court. Never raped anybody. Have you?

He's not somebody I rate, admire or spend any time supporting.

Why do you ?

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Good on Trump throwing plane load of criminals out already shame the UK doesn't follow suit

SShhhh, don't mention stuff like that. Apparently it's because we have different policies/procedures. Yes we do ... sh1te ones.

 

[Notch7]

Immigration - check
Ending DEI - check
Environment - check
Dismantling bureaucracy - check
Department of Govt efficiency - check
Drill baby drill - check

All mentioned or touched on in project 25 but were policy before anyone had heard of project 25.

And he's already delivering, while Europe looks on in awe.

Filly do you believe Donald Trump will make the lives of ordinary American citizens better?

while Europe looks on in awe

Is that the Europe which has far better standards of living for ordinary citizens than America and U.K.?

 

[fillyboy]

I've been reading more comments on the Telegraph website, mainly sycophantic towards Trump, but they draw the line at his threats towards Denmark. Many point out that Denmark stood with the USA in Afghanistan and took the heaviest pro rata casualties (something I didn't know). Also, mixed in with the adulation for Trump's deal making skills, somebody pointed that his business deals usually end up going tits up. Which I thought introduced a nice dose of realism.

A few things surprised me about Greenland (I assume that's why we're referencing the Danish PM), I hadn't taken much notice of it until The Donald expressed an interest in buying it. From various articles I've read.

Greenland is the largest Island in the world, roughly a 12th the size of Australia. (Australia is a continent so not classed as an Island).

The Greenlandians aren't too keen on Denmark, they feel they've done nothing for them. I believe Denmark provide defence among other things. The main population of Greenland are Inuits, so not particularly culturally attached to Denmark.
They achieved autonomy from Denmark so are self governing but not independent. With that autonomy they voted to leave the EU knowing the EU would rape their fishing grounds. The EU do still fish there but pay handsomely for controlled quotas.

It's an incredibly strategic piece of land militarily, important to America, China and Russia. Russia are making huge inroads into the Arctic, China are purchasing mining agreements in Greenland. America do have a base there but mainly as an early warning station.

Greenland, although not fully explored, is rich in 'rare earth minerals', something China almost has a monopoly on, essential for modern electronics but incredibly rare.

The Donald first mentioned buying Greenland in 2019, I don't remember hearing about it at the time, I was also unaware that America had made previous attempts to buy Greenland, the first by President Truman in 1946 for 100 million dollars in gold.

I live in what I consider to be a small town in Cornwall, it's population is half the size of Greenland whose population is 56,000

It's more than feasible for America to come to a treaty with Greenland that would make everybody on the Island relatively wealthy, add military security to the US (and by default Europe and Greenland), grab a few mining concessions and still maintain self governance for the Greenlandians.
What's not to like.

Of course, the communists on here would far rather it was controlled by Russia and China, just as they hope for that to be the case in the Middle East.

We live in strange times.

 

[fillyboy]

Filly do you believe Donald Trump will make the lives of ordinary American citizens better?

Yes, but more importantly, so do they, that's why they voted the way they did.
I hope they're right and I'm sure they are, I wouldn't wish ill on millions of people simply because their voting choice is not the same as yours.

 

[MNW67]

We live in strange times.

I agree. But if this is what America really wants, all the above could be achieved (and more) through normal, sensible, quiet diplomacy. Trump has made it unnecessarily toxic and adversarial. He might well have set things backwards a long way. Or if he gets a deal, it will now be sub optimal. On the Telegraph comments section, many are comparing his behaviour to Putin's behaviour over Crimea. I cannot imagine any right minded person will be impressed with the world's most powerful country publicly threatening a tiny gentle country like Denmark. Moral authority can quickly drain away. And the point still stands that, in his original business career, he was pretty unsuccessful. Why should we trust that a man who led six companies into bankruptcy is a master negotiator who can make the best long term deal. That has never been what he is interested in. He likes the chase and the kill and to show what a big man he is. Sometimes it is still better to speak softly and carry a big stick.

 

[Mottie]

I wouldn't wish ill on millions of people simply because their voting choice is not the same as yours.

I know someone that would……No, I mustn’t mention 'him'. He'll have a scream up and get me chucked out of this thread.