U.K. to accept EU illegal immigrant quota.

[Deleted member 221031]

Iraq war was going to happen with or without Blair
by the way the public and the Conservative party supported it at the time


there has never been "mass immigration"



The Blair period was better than the Tory period before and way better than the Tory period since.

lower child poverty
lower pensioner poverty
lowest NHS waiting times ever
GP appointments in 2 days not 3 weeks
solid period of growth
decent wage growth
stable economy
more police
more nurses
more teachers
lower class sizes
sure start

I am sorry you are always wrong, it is most embarrassing for you

Then he became a war criminal, put his mate in charge who sold our gold at an all time low.

So decent start and a very poor finish

 

[gas112]

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Iraq war was going to happen with or without Blair
by the way the public and the Conservative party supported it at the time

1.5 million marched against it one of the biggest protests this country has ever seen . You really do have your head in the sand

 

[Vinty]

Don't think it really matters which party is in power.
Britain can't stop illegal immigration alone.
The EU itself seems unable to stem the tide of illegals.
There are effective solutions to the problem but they would not be acceptable in a democracy.
The EU has nothing to offer except mass immigration and war in Europe.

 

[Odds]

1.5 million marched against it one of the biggest protests this country has ever seen .

Geopolitics, old bean, is complicated.
The question at the time was 'do you stand with an ally in a time of crisis, or not'.
Blair chose to stand alongside the U.S.

Should the UK have done any differently?
Becoming a member of the EU meant accepting their rules and workers in the UK were at liberty to ply their trade in France, Germany or any other member state. Did you?

 

[gas112]

Geopolitics, old bean, is complicated.
The question at the time was 'do you stand with an ally in a time of crisis, or not'.
Blair chose to stand alongside the U.S.

Should the UK have done any differently?
Becoming a member of the EU meant accepting their rules and workers in the UK were at liberty to ply their trade in France, Germany or any other member state. Did you?

the comment was the public (not the government) was for it clearly they were not old bean

 

[Odds]

the comment was the public (not the government) was for it clearly they were not old bean

The question was not put to a public referendum. A decision had to be made.
The American President had publicly stated 'those who aren't with us are against us', so what should he do?

 

[Dork Lard]

1.5 million marched against it one of the biggest protests this country has ever seen . You really do have your head in the sand

Good day out that was . . . . https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/11/slugs-iraq-war-london-protest-2003-legacy

One of my favourite stories from those days was when Bliar met some of the families of dead soldiers at a photo shoot somewhere . . . One of the fathers refused his hand & turned his back on him. Something not reported at the time.

 

[Odds]

One of my favourite stories from those days was when Bliar met some of the families of dead soldiers at a photo shoot somewhere . . . One of the fathers refused his hand & turned his back on him. Something not reported at the time.

I remember it was...

One of the most powerful actions of the week turned out to be a non-action. Peter Brierley – father of Lance Corporal Shaun Brierley, one of the first to die in Iraq, at St Paul's to commemorate soldiers and personnel killed in the conflict – refusing to shake Tony Blair's hand, with the words: "I am not shaking your hand. You have got blood on it." Blair – clearly shocked, was bustled away by security, the whole thing akin to some bizarre inversion of the usual over-zealous fan/reluctant celebrity scenario.
thirteen years@theGrundian

...and you probably do, too.

 

[gas112]

The question was not put to a public referendum. A decision had to be made.
The American President had publicly stated 'those who aren't with us are against us', so what should he do?

Completely different question to my answer to notch so irrelevant . But would that be our greatest allies America who initially refused us help with AWACS when we went to war with Argentina. Which could have resulted in massive casualties and failure

 

[Odds]

Completely different question to my answer to notch so irrelevant . But would that be our greatest allies America who initially refused us help with AWACS when we went to war with Argentina. Which could have resulted in massive casualties and failure

Done is done. Start a thread if it bothers you so much...

 

[gas112]

Done is done. Start a thread if it bothers you so much...

try following your own advice

 

[Odds]

try following your own advice

You started the off-topic subject, not i.
Buzz orff.

 

[Notch7]

Then he became a war criminal, put his mate in charge who sold our gold at an all time low.

So decent start and a very poor finish

1) not a war criminal

2) Browns decision to sell the gold was considered wise by financial institutions

the Labour period 1997 to 2008 was better than Tory period before or since.
global financial crash wouldve done for Tories or Labour - same as covid

 

[Notch7]

and war in Europe

That’s Putin

 

[Dork Lard]

2) Browns decision to sell the gold was considered wise by financial institutions

I'm a student of economics & would be very interested in any information on exactly which "financial institutions" considered Gordon's selling of the gold to be "wise".