UK Australia Trade Deal

[Captain Nemesis]

The RoI biggest trading partners are the EU and the USA, if these two economies decide to turn the screw on the RoI in regards to its money laundering activities, then the RoI is donald ducked. Its only hope of survival will be to leave the EU and enter into some sort of economic relationship with post Brexit UK.

The UK does not have a need for any more money-laundering facilities.

 

[Vinty]

How could it ever be "forced"? Have you read the rules relating to a border poll?

Not as easy, it seems, as it is to talk about them as if they were more significant than they are.

I wouldn't be to sure about that.
They might just decide to become a lot more significent.

 

[Vinty]

How could it ever be "forced"? Have you read the rules relating to a border poll?

Any border poll would require parallel consent from both communities.
Tbis principle is at the heart of the Belfast agreement.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/op...l-not-deliver-future-we-deserve-38122624.html
Seamus Mallon was a leader of Constitutional nationalism.

 

[Vinty]

France has massively increased its sales to Ireland

I didn't know there was a huge demand for snails and horsemeat in Ireland.
The Anglophobic element among the Irish elites are making the same mistake they have always made historically, their sucking up to foreigners in order to damage Britain will have negative consequences.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

I wouldn't be to sure about that.
They might just decide to become a lot more significent.

In undemocratic, non-politics, ways?

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Any border poll would require parallel consent from both communities.
Tbis principle is at the heart of the Belfast agreement.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/op...l-not-deliver-future-we-deserve-38122624.html
Seamus Mallon was a leader of Constitutional nationalism.

Hes arguing for parallel consent, not saying it is mandated.

But in any event, you were quite happy for the decision to leave the EU to be forced onto the UK, and have been clear that those who didnt want that must accept the will of the democratic majority.

So if a simple majority in NI decide to leave the UK, you will have to accept that too.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

I didn't know there was a huge demand for snails and horsemeat in Ireland.

You cant carry on only eating potatoes.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

One thinks that this brexit caper is causing issues in NI

it could well pall into insignificance compared to the trouble that could occur if a united Ireland is forced onto the unionist community

Like forcing Brexit onto Remainers?

 

[Vinty]

So if a simple majority in NI decide to leave the UK, you will have to accept that too

Not necessarily, the right to self determination would trump the result of any border poll.

 

[Vinty]

You cant carry on only eating potatoes.

Nothing wrong with spuds, they are a lot more versatile than snails.
Chips, Crisps and lots of other delicacies.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

The right to self determination would trump the result of any border poll.

Which means what, in practice, and within the law?

 

[Vinty]

Which means what, in practice, and within the law?

This principle is enshrined in UN law.
Quote.

Self-determination, the process by which a group of people, usually possessing a certain degree of national consciousness, form their own state and choose their own government.

 

[JohnD]

Not necessarily, the right to self determination would trump the result of any border poll.

vinty is clutching at straws.

He'll be telling us next that Basques, Catalans and Palestinians have their own sovereign states.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Self-determination, the process by which a group of people, usually possessing a certain degree of national consciousness, form their own state and choose their own government.

And what is enshrined in "UN law" about the ways in which a minority may override a decision made by a majority?

 

[Vinty]

And what is enshrined in "UN law" about the ways in which a minority may override a decision made by a majority?

Read the Belfast agreement, parallel consent was written into it.
Legislation can only be passed with the consent of a majority in both communities.