UK Politics

[motorbiking]

I do my best to stay fit and eat moderately, every now and then I go on a diet to get back to a healthy weight. Don’t smoke or take drugs and am not type 2 pre-diabetic. Will probably get prostate cancer at some point like most men.

If everyone did their bit we’d have less of a back log

 

[Vinty]

Something is not right with the health services in the UK.
We keep getting told that there are shortages of staff ect. that is why there is a backlog.
Yet, if you pull out a wad of cash, they can't get you into hospital quick enough.

 

[Vinty]

Things haven't changed much with NHS.

 

[noseall]

We keep getting told that there are shortages of staff ect. that is why there is a backlog.
Yet, if you pull out a wad of cash, they can't get you into hospital quick enough.

Do you live in a cave? We have been under Tory rule for more than a decade, and you ask why a socialist concept is being steadily privatised? Staunch conservatives detest the NHS.

 

[Mottie]

Do you live in a cave? We have been under Tory rule for more than a decade, and you ask why a socialist concept is being steadily privatised? Staunch conservatives detest the NHS.

Which political party will you be voting for in the next GE that will stop that alleged 'privatisation' and maintain that socialist concept?

 

[JohnD]

1 people living longer
2 medical interventions are getting better but also expensive
3 the country has grown and there are lots of people coming here for free treatment.
4 we have a legacy of expensive financial arrangements introduced decades ago that cost a fortune
5 people expecting sex changes on the NHS
6 better diagnosis means more treatable outcomes
7 we are fat and eat too much sugar
8 people still drink, smoke and take too many drugs
9 we don’t exercise enough.
10 we prefer to have surgery rather than go on diets.

Shock news, Tory supporter refuses to acknowledge the graph at the start of the thread.

 

[motorbiking]

Leftie JohnD thinks everything in the world, ever, is the fault of the Conservative Government.

 

[noseall]

Which political party will you be voting for in the next GE that will stop that alleged 'privatisation' and maintain that socialist concept?

Labour, comrade.

 

[Murdochcat]

Ok

all of you criticising the spending on the NHS - how much more tax and NI are you willing to pay? Serious question btw

i would be happy to pay more FWIW

 

[IT Minion]

3 the country has grown and there are lots of people coming here for free treatment.

That's incorrect. It's a small number and a tiny proportion of treatments.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Unrealistic

I made it clear that my comments were in a hypothetical situation when only private treament was available.
There was no NHS/private mix in my hypothetical scenario.

Which is why I said it was a hypothetical situation/scenario.

Although there may be some sort of model, where we pay for our medical treatment, and we are able to reclaim from a source, say the government or a private insurance.
Obviously there would need to be some sort of safety net.

 

[Roy Bloom]

3 ... and there are lots of people coming here for free treatment.

We have a system for claiming back the cost of medical treatment.
If it's not used, it's not the patient's fault.

5 people expecting sex changes on the NHS

If it's treatment to resolve a medical condition, e.g. gender disphoria, why should they not be treated?

 

[Vinty]

1 people living longer
2 medical interventions are getting better but also expensive
3 the country has grown and there are lots of people coming here for free treatment.
4 we have a legacy of expensive financial arrangements introduced decades ago that cost a fortune
5 people expecting sex changes on the NHS
6 better diagnosis means more treatable outcomes
7 we are fat and eat too much sugar
8 people still drink, smoke and take too many drugs
9 we don’t exercise enough.
10 we prefer to have surgery rather than go on diets.

All we would end up with is people have lived to to long and need mobility scooters and other aids.
Living longer doesn't necessarily mean living healthier.

 

[Roy Bloom]

All we would end up with is people have lived to to long and need mobility scooters and other aids.
Living longer doesn't necessarily mean living healthier.

I'm sure the capital system will benefit.

 

[Odds]

Meanwhile...

A campaign group has written to the standards watchdog asking for an investigation into Nadine Dorries after its poll suggested more than half of people believe her absence as an MP and failure to quit has significantly damaged parliament’s reputation.

Tom Brake, the director of Unlock Democracy, called for an inquiry after the group commissioned an Opinium survey that found 55% of people thought Dorries had caused significant damage by failing to speak in parliament and delaying her decision to quit. The survey, which involved 2,000 people, said Dorries announced she was stepping down with immediate effect in early June but has yet to officially quit. It mentioned that she has not spoken in parliament in more than a year despite being paid her full salary as an MP during this time. Given the option of whether or not this significantly damaged the reputation of parliament, 55% said it had done so, while 22% said it had not, and 23% said they did not know.

Oh Nadine!@the Grudandia

A Tory 'minister' failing to back up their words?
Shurely not!