UK Security Post Brexit

[SammyInnit]

Heard all the same earlier in the year.

 

[Notch7]

But don't expect the benefits

So, the EU dont want the benefits.

 

[noseall]

So, the EU dont want the benefits.

What benefits are there when a member leaves the EU?

 

[ellal]

What benefits are there when a member leaves the EU?

Quitters won't ever tell us...

Funny thing that

 

[Doppleganger]

But don't expect the benefits.

So, the EU dont want the benefits.

It looks like you are back practising infantilism again, clipping quotes in a vain attempt to impress.
May I remind you of a very recent post of yours:

Its not in anyones interest to stop security collaboration.

But if the UK wants out of the club, which in TM's words means out of the jurisdiction of the ECJ, then that it is the UK's decision, and only the UK's decision.

 

[Notch7]

What benefits are there when a member leaves the EU?

Benefits of maintaining security collaboration with the UK.........

 

[Notch7]

Anyone who believes that the EU will place themselves at greater risk just to spite us are in cloud cuckoo land.

Doppleganger has clearly obtained residency in that land.

 

[Doppleganger]

Benefits of maintaining security collaboration with the UK.........

Then they (UK) would need to recognise the jurisdiction of the ECJ.
Just like cake and eat it, it's a circular problem/relationship. Until you close the circle, there is no answer.
Similarly, if the circle is already closed, but one party chooses to break the circle, the problem re-emerges.
You can't have one, you can't have one, you can't have one without the other.

Love and marriage, love and marriage
They go together like a horse and carriage
This I tell you, brother
You can't have one without the other

Love and marriage, love and marriage
It's an institute you can't disparage
Ask the local gentry
And they will say it's elementary

Try, try, try to separate them
It's an illusion
Try, try, try, and you will only come
To this conclusion

Love and marriage, love and marriage
Go together like a horse and carriage
Dad was told by mother
You can't have one, you can´t have none
You can't have one without the other

 

[Notch7]

Then they (UK) would need to recognise the jurisdiction of the ECJ.
Just like cake and eat it, it's a circular problem/relationship. Until you close the circle, there is no answer.
Similarly, if the circle is already closed, but one party chooses to break the circle, the problem re-emerges.
You can't have one, you can't have one, you can't have one without the other

Drivel

It is in the interest of the EU to continue collaborating with the UK on matters of security.
If they want to retain that advantage they will negotiate a path that works for both parties.

Do you know what that path is called?
It is commonly referred to as a bespoke arrangement. Google it, you might actually learn something.

While you are at it, google Europol operational agreements.....

 

[SirGalahad]

The arrangement if there is a no deal would require some form of payment and acceptance of EU data regulations. So it would be like being part of Europol practically but having no say in what areas to focus on.

We would be a contributor and not a controller.

 

[Doppleganger]

The arrangement if there is a no deal would require some form of payment and acceptance of EU data regulations. So it would be like being part of Europol practically but having no say in what areas to focus on.

We would be a contributor and not a controller.

The arrangement, even if there is a deal, which remains to be negotiated yet.......
Only the divorce agreement is finalised, if we accept it.

 

[Doppleganger]

It is in the interest of the EU to continue collaborating with the UK on matters of security.
If they want to retain that advantage they will negotiate a path that works for both parties.

As you recognise:

Its not in anyones interest to stop security collaboration.

It's not in the UK's interest to sever connections and cooperation with the EU.
But that does not seem to have stopped the Brexiteers. They even claim it is in our interest!

 

[SirGalahad]

Drivel

It is in the interest of the EU to continue collaborating with the UK on matters of security.
If they want to retain that advantage they will negotiate a path that works for both parties.

Do you know what that path is called?
It is commonly referred to as a bespoke arrangement. Google it, you might actually learn something.

While you are at it, google Europol operational agreements.....

This issue about both have a vested interest and so will work something out is slightly misleading.

It depends on how much of a compromise we are willing to make. The Danes have opted out of further EU security integration but have access to Europol as they still remain within the EU and Schengen area.

Also they have no say in how Europol operate.

 

[noseall]

Benefits of maintaining security collaboration with the UK.........

We must be mad to leave then and lose that benefit. Stupid quitters.

 

[JohnD]

It is in the interest of the UK to continue collaborating with the EU on matters of security.

If they want to retain that advantage they will negotiate a path that works for both parties...

A deal, you mean.

The very thing that the more rabid brexers oppose.