UK to Rwanda asylum plan ruled unlawful

[carmanmemoranda]

Sorry you find reality unacceptable.

Haven't you heard how some yoof talk these days? Of all colours, and it barely makes sense, all the wrong forms of verbs, "f" instead of "th". It's basically a contrived poor attempt at Jamaican Patois. They deliberately use words that are grammatically incorrect, together with the pronunciation of a 3-year old. Presumably using actual English means you're square or old.

This is why I say they make themselves unemployable, because they sound retarded rather than foreign.

Whether you like it or not, our language is fluid and changes over the years, for lots of reasons.

Not speaking perfect english does not make anybody unemployable. Unsuited for some jobs maybe. I wonder what the jobs prospect is in many inner city areas, regardless of the language ability of any particular person.

 

[noseall]

Word.

Safe. Sick.

 

[Odds]

Sarah Dines, a Home Office minister, has been doing an interview round this morning, and she in effect confirmed that the Ascension Island option was being examined. Asked on Times Radio if the Times and Daily Mail reports were correct, she replied:

We are pretty confident that Rwanda is a legal policy. The high court and the lord chief justice found that it was, so that is what we are focusing on. But like any responsible government, we look at additional measures, so we are looking at everything to make sure our policy works. We need to reduce the pull factor of illegal criminal gangs getting people to this country, basically abusing the system.
On the Today programme, when it was put to her that Ascension Island was a “plan B” in the event of the supreme court deciding deportations to Rwanda are unlawful, Dines said she would not use the terms “alternative” or “plan B”. But she went on: “We are looking at additiional schemes, of course we are.”

And on Sky News, asked why the Home Office was considering Ascension Island when it examined, and rejected, this option three years ago, Dines replied: Well, times change. We look at all possibilities. This crisis in the Channel is urgent, we need to look at all possibilities and that is what we are doing.

If they can't be sent to the heart of Africa then halfway to the Antarctic will do.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

All this guff is surely a win win for the Tories? It plays to their voter base, so if by some chance they get in come next GE, they're (on the surface) attempting to do what their voters want them to do, even though the chance of these plans coming to fruition is remote. If they lose come next GE and Labour go down another route that's ultimately as ineffective it terms of keeping people out, the Tories can sit in opposition and say 'well at least we had a plan!' even though said plans were tenuous at best.

What a feck up this whole thing is. Btw I'm not suggesting it's an easy problem to resolve, and as I've said a few times on here, it's a problem that's only going to get worse.

 

[denso13]

All this guff is surely a win win for the Tories? It plays to their voter base

Their supporters don't even think it is our governments problem, it isn't for them to come up with solutions. It is all the fault of others, including the RNLI and lawyers.

 

[motorbiking]

It’s not credible to attack other people’s ideas if you don’t have any. Though I acknowledge it’s human nature to know what you don’t like.

 

[denso13]

It’s not credible to attack other people’s ideas if you don’t have any.

I gave you a few. Do want me to write the policy as well?

 

[denso13]

It’s not credible to attack other people’s ideas if you don’t have any.

If I quote them would you apologise for lying?

 

[denso13]

Though I acknowledge it’s human nature to know what you don’t like.

It's not what I like or don't like. Whatever the solution is, and whether I agree or not, the Government should be leading on it. You think it is someone else's problem.

 

[Odds]

If it's true the government is considering the proposal to send Middle-Eastern and African asylum seekers to the Ascension Island then i can only assume they were drunk or have a twisted sense of humour - or both. It's literally the middle of nowhere! The last time anyone paid any attention to the place was during the Falklands War when Vulcan bombers used the airstrip to refuel on the way to knocking some sense into the Argies. Come up with a plan that even tries to make some sense, why don't they...

 

[Brigadier]

If it's true the government is considering the proposal to send Middle-Eastern and African asylum seekers to the Ascension Island then i can only assume they were drunk or have a twisted sense of humour - or both. It's literally the middle of nowhere! The last time anyone paid any attention to the place was during the Falklands War when Vulcan bombers used the airstrip to refuel on the way to knocking some sense into the Argies. Come up with a plan that even tries to make some sense, why don't they...

Even if it did float, there are bio-security considerations.

Ascension's remoteness makes it a unique habitat, and therefore subject to controls to preserve that habitat.

 

[footprints]

Call me stupid, and no doubt someone will, but you turn up in a rubber boat that can travel 60 miles or so. There is no doubt where you came from. A safe country where you should have applied for asylum in the first save country. Take them straight back we are paying the French large sums to stop them after all!


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[Deleted member 221031]

Call me stupid, and no doubt someone will, but you turn up in a rubber boat that can travel 60 miles or so. There is no doubt where you came from. A safe country where you should have applied for asylum in the first save country. Take them straight back we are paying the French large sums to stop them after all!


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Well said.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Call me stupid, and no doubt someone will, but you turn up in a rubber boat that can travel 60 miles or so. There is no doubt where you came from. A safe country where you should have applied for asylum in the first save country. Take them straight back we are paying the French large sums to stop them after all!


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There is no requirement, no legislation, no rules that says you must apply in any particular country.

If your claim had a genuine concern, you would agree that all asylum seekers in the Mediterranean (and other places such as Syria, Afghanistan, etc)should be air-lifted out of Libya, (or wherever). It's not a safe country, and the refugees choose not to apply for asylum there.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Well said.

I wouldn't have said it was "well said", I'd have called it disingenuous. it must be well documented and well known by now that footprints' suggestion was based on an incorrect trope put about by Tories..