'Unhelpful posts' ??

[securespark]

It can't be.

P.m. means before noon, and a.m. means after noon.

Midnight is equidistant.

It is "midnight" or "twelve midnight" or "00:00"

From the Latin words meridies (midday), ante (before) and post (after), the term ante meridiem (a.m.) means before midday and post meridiem (p.m.) means after midday.

 

[JohnW2]

It can't be.

shouldn't be - but, as I have said, and Sunray has just illustrated, that does not alteer the fact that some peoeple,and some 'officialdom' get it wrong

P.m. means before noon, and a.m. means after noon.

Indeed. the "M" of AM and PM stands for 'meridiem', hence AM and PM refer to the situation in which thee sun has not yet passed, or has already passed the meridian of the location in question (i.e. before or after sun is highest in the sky - 'solar noon'), respectively

Midnight is equidistant. It is "midnight" or "twelve midnight" or "00:00"

As has been discussed, the meaning of "midday" and "midnight" is somewhat less clear and consistent, and does not necessarily relate directly to the timing of noon.

 

[JohnW2]

From the Latin words meridies (midday), ante (before) and post (after), the term ante meridiem (a.m.) means before midday and post meridiem (p.m.) means after midday.

As I've just written,I think you'll find that the M of AM and PM stands for "meridiem", hence referring to the point in time at which the sun passes the meridian of the location (i.e. solar noon)

 

[SUNRAY]

It can't be.

P.m. means before noon, and a.m. means after noon.

Midnight is equidistant.

It is "midnight" or "twelve midnight" or "00:00"

It can't be what?
Who are you replying to?

 

[securespark]

As I've just written,I think you'll find that the M of AM and PM stands for "meridiem", hence referring to the point in time at which the sun passes the meridian of the location (i.e. solar noon)

Did you read my quote?

 

[securespark]

As has been discussed, the meaning of "midday" and "midnight" is somewhat less clear and consistent, and does not necessarily relate directly to the timing of noon.

The two "Mids" are the 12s. One is in the day and one in the night.

Sorted.

 

[securespark]

John

You have mixed up pm and am, surely?

 

[SUNRAY]

shouldn't be - but, as I have said, and Sunray has just illustrated, that does not alteer the fact that some peoeple,and some 'officialdom' get it wrong

....

Ah but I then asked her what time it actually meant and she quite expectedly said "Middle of the night".

"So". Replied Sunray; "How long does it take to get from Warsaw to Auschwich by coach?"

 

[SUNRAY]

John

You have mixed up pm and am, surely?

Totally

 

[Why Not Indeed]

I'm not sure whether that 'you' relates to me, or whether you meant 'one',

If I had meant "one", I would have said "one".

 

[blup]

Original post about off topic posts now totally off topic.

 

[JohnW2]

Did you read my quote?

You mean the one which said ..

From the Latin words meridies (midday), ante (before) and post (after), the term ante meridiem (a.m.) means before midday and post meridiem (p.m.) means after midday.

If so, as I said, and despite what many people/sources think/day, I'm not at all sure that that "ante meridiem" means "before midday" (whatever 'midday' may mean), but, rather, 'before the time when the sun passes the meridian of the location' (i.e. when the sun is highest in the sky at that location).

 

[JohnD]

Original post about off topic posts now totally off topic.

Thank you!

 

[JohnW2]

The two "Mids" are the 12s. One is in the day and one in the night.

That's obviously true in terms of common usage - in which "midday", "noon", "12 midday", "12 noon", 12:00 and 12 PM all mean the same thing, but we are talking about what should bee the correct meanings of such terminologies.

The point I was making in the post you have quoted is that midday and midnight do not necessarily (in fact, rarely do) correspond exactly with the time of noon (whether defined in astronomical or solar terms, or in relation to the postulated 'monks' origin).

 

[JohnW2]

You have mixed up pm and am, surely?

Possibly - I'm known for being imperfect

if you told me what statement you are referring to, I would probably be able to respond more usefully!