Unmasking evolution

[chapeau]

Cuckoo cuckoo

 

[sooey]

OK science guys:

14 billion years ago the universe didn't exist.

How do you know?

13.77 billion years ago the universe leapt into existence from nothing in the 'big bang'.

Now tell me what acted upon that nothing to suddenly make it a something.

Some of us give that something a name - God.

What do you choose to call it? Janet? Tracy? It's just a name - which one will you choose for it? Whatever that something is that we call God - it's the the same entity that you call Mildred or Dorothy...

Do you think that same entity sits there all day listening for supporations from it's devotees?

Come on guys, what was it that acted upon nothing to create the Universe? And why did it do it? Gimme the science

You give us the science joe, there's a nobel prize waiting for you.

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or even supplications.

 

[joe-90]

So I see the science guys have no answers. You are all clueless. Whether you call the energy source behind the universe God or some other name - it's still the same energy source. It's just that you refuse to give it a name.

Come on guys - give it a name.

Fiona sounds nice.

 

[JohnD]

what caused the universe, is an entirely different question from "is evolution a sensible theory."

No reason why your Fiona shouldn't have programmed in the conditions for evolution to occur.

 

[joe-90]

John. We don't understand what life is, how the brain works, how the cell works, what eternity is, what infinity is - yet you think you know all the answers about how life changes over the years? You don't John, no-one does and we may never know.

Your dog cannot grasp the concept of tomorrow or later or death - he just doesn't have the mental capacity to understand it. Why do you think that we do? We know practically nothing about our world and how it works.

Look at the number of different dog breeds and tell me what they have to do with evolution.

 

[sooey]

Look at the number of different dog breeds and tell me what they have to do with evolution.

Artificial selection by humans over a few thousand years has resulted in all those different breeds of the same animal.
Artificial selection is just a kind of accelerated natural selection, and the results you see in dogs are a good proof of the theory.

 

[joe-90]

Then explain why no other animal is capable of such diversity. If you can't - then clearly you have no understanding of evolution.

Great Dane, Jack Russell, corgi etc. How many types of human are there?

 

[JohnD]

Then explain why no other animal is capable of such diversity.

the ones people have spent time selectively breeding, and have also diversified due to the different environment the wild animal developed in? There are quite a lot of breeds of horse, cow, sheep, pig and chicken

 

[sooey]

Then explain why no other animal is capable of such diversity. If you can't - then clearly you have no understanding of evolution.

Great Dane, Jack Russell, corgi etc. How many types of human are there?

How many different types of spider are there?

 

[joinerjohn]

Then explain why no other animal is capable of such diversity. If you can't - then clearly you have no understanding of evolution.

Great Dane, Jack Russell, corgi etc. How many types of human are there?

White European, Black African. Innuit, Chinese Asian, Indian Asian Aborigine Maori. South American Indian Mongol. All essentially the same humans, but with striking differences. (same as dog breeds, essentially the same but with marked differences) What about Apes then Joe, or Monkeys and birds?, fish reptiles etc.There's a whole world of diversity out there., if you'll but open your eyes.

 

[sooey]

Answer no one knows....37,000 odd and counting I believe.

 

[joe-90]

Spiders are a species like fish. A dog is a dog with dog DNA. How many spiders can interbreed with one another? None, That's how many.

As for pigs and horses and chickens - they have little diversity among each breed - whereas dogs??? Irish Wolfhound compared to a pug?

No-one knows why this is. That's because we are clueless as to how life really works, and thus we are clueless about how evolution works.

 

[JohnD]

Irish Wolfhound compared to a pug?

Miniature horse compared to a Hanoverian or a Shetland?

Is your point that Selective Breeding only works with dogs (false) or that the results differ between species?

 

[joe-90]

Only dogs on this planet are capable of breeding so many diverse types. Ponies and horses vary in height but little else. Why is that John? (he doesn't know)

 

[cajar]

Dogs have been bred by man for a long long time with the intent of maintaining or developing traits in breeds. That's why dogs are the way they are today.