US and Israel seek to expel Palestinians from Palestine...

denso13 said:
I'm not dreaming, both Hamas and Israel are to blame for where we are. Expelling Palestinians from their sovereign state won't solve anything.
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It's over. Israel and Palestine had the mother of all rows and they are divorcing because they cannot get along. One side has to leave and it is the Palestinians this time around. The End. May they both live happily ever after, just not together.
 
The Palestinians and all the other Arab peoples in that region have a history going back 1000's of years.
Their populations are growing, they aren't going anywhere in the near future.

Israel survives through its umbilical cord connected to its mothership in America.
If that umbilical cord is cut, then Israel will wither and disappear because it cannot ever be part of a common identity and culture of that region.
 
When Trump came up with his 'plan' to expel the Arabs from Gaza to build his resort, he said Egypt and Jordan would have to step up and take them. I commented at the time that it had the desired effect in that for the first time I can recall, the Arab countries were coming together to discuss the 'Palestinian problem'. Egypt didn't want them because they knew that the Sinai would become a nest of terrorists, and it isn't that many years that following the Arab Spring, Egypt (with the help of Israel) managed to clear the Sinai of the Muslim Brotherhood. Jordan didn't want them because they already have several million and still recall when that bunch tried to overthrow the Jordanian Royal Family (Black September).
Egypt have in the last week or so come up with a plan for the rebuilding of Gaza and the formation of a new government not involving Hamas whilst the Palestinians themselves remain in Gaza.
The plan has not so far been accepted as far as I'm aware. If the plan is adopted, it will be a big win for the Donald.


CAIRO (Reuters) - Arab foreign ministers said on Wednesday they would continue consultations with U.S. President Donald Trump's special envoy over Egypt's plan for rebuilding the Gaza Strip, an alternative to Trump's proposed takeover of the Palestinian territory.

Consultations and coordination on the plan would continue with the U.S. special envoy, Steve Witkoff, as a "basis for the reconstruction efforts" in Gaza, according to a joint statement following a meeting of the foreign ministers in Doha.

Earlier this month, Arab leaders adopted a $53 billion Egyptian reconstruction plan for Gaza that would avoid displacing Palestinians from the enclave, in contrast to Trump's vision of a "Middle East Riviera".

Trump's plan reinforced long-standing Palestinian fears of being permanently driven from their homes, and was met with widespread international rejection.

Egypt, Jordan and Gulf Arab states are concerned that any such plan would destabilise the entire region.

Egypt's reconstruction plan for Gaza provides for an administrative committee of independent, professional Palestinian technocrats entrusted with the governance of Gaza.

The plan is detailed in a 112-page document that includes maps of how its land would be redeveloped and dozens of colourful AI-generated images of housing developments, gardens and community centres.

Large-scale reconstruction funding would require heavy buy-in from oil-rich Gulf Arab states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia.

The White House has previously said that the plan, which has recently received backing from France, Germany, Italy and Britain, did not address Gaza's reality.

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Odds said:
The idea of Sudan or Somalia taking Palestinian refugees is derisory and insulting.
Homer Simspson could find a more plausible plan after a night out at Moe's Bar.
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You must admit there's a delicious irony though given Sudan's history with the Ethiopian Jews.
 
fillyboy said:
When Trump came up with his 'plan' to expel the Arabs from Gaza to build his resort, he said Egypt and Jordan would have to step up and take them. I commented at the time that it had the desired effect in that for the first time I can recall, the Arab countries were coming together to discuss the 'Palestinian problem'. Egypt didn't want them because they knew that the Sinai would become a nest of terrorists, and it isn't that many years that following the Arab Spring, Egypt (with the help of Israel) managed to clear the Sinai of the Muslim Brotherhood. Jordan didn't want them because they already have several million and still recall when that bunch tried to overthrow the Jordanian Royal Family (Black September).
Egypt have in the last week or so come up with a plan for the rebuilding of Gaza and the formation of a new government not involving Hamas whilst the Palestinians themselves remain in Gaza.
The plan has not so far been accepted as far as I'm aware. If the plan is adopted, it will be a big win for the Donald.


CAIRO (Reuters) - Arab foreign ministers said on Wednesday they would continue consultations with U.S. President Donald Trump's special envoy over Egypt's plan for rebuilding the Gaza Strip, an alternative to Trump's proposed takeover of the Palestinian territory.

Consultations and coordination on the plan would continue with the U.S. special envoy, Steve Witkoff, as a "basis for the reconstruction efforts" in Gaza, according to a joint statement following a meeting of the foreign ministers in Doha.

Earlier this month, Arab leaders adopted a $53 billion Egyptian reconstruction plan for Gaza that would avoid displacing Palestinians from the enclave, in contrast to Trump's vision of a "Middle East Riviera".

Trump's plan reinforced long-standing Palestinian fears of being permanently driven from their homes, and was met with widespread international rejection.

Egypt, Jordan and Gulf Arab states are concerned that any such plan would destabilise the entire region.

Egypt's reconstruction plan for Gaza provides for an administrative committee of independent, professional Palestinian technocrats entrusted with the governance of Gaza.

The plan is detailed in a 112-page document that includes maps of how its land would be redeveloped and dozens of colourful AI-generated images of housing developments, gardens and community centres.

Large-scale reconstruction funding would require heavy buy-in from oil-rich Gulf Arab states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia.

The White House has previously said that the plan, which has recently received backing from France, Germany, Italy and Britain, did not address Gaza's reality.

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I just don't see the Palestinians ever being OK with living next door to the Israelis in peace. I think it is wishful thinking. There will be a honeymoon period and then it will be straight back to their old ways.
 
Sunshine32 said:
I just don't see the Palestinians ever being OK with living next door to the Israelis in peace. I think it is wishful thinking. There will be a honeymoon period and then it will be straight back to their old ways.
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Security will be a big issue, that's why Hamas must be destroyed, but I suspect somebody will be along to replace them.
 
Sunshine32 said:
I just don't see the Palestinians ever being OK with living next door to the Israelis in peace. I think it is wishful thinking. There will be a honeymoon period and then it will be straight back to their old ways.
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It is sad to say, but I think it the Palestinians in Gaza will have to accept a much more repressive government. Maybe Saudi led. Hamas need to be stamped out.
 
fillyboy said:
When Trump came up with his 'plan' to expel the Arabs from Gaza to build his resort, he said Egypt and Jordan would have to step up and take them. I commented at the time that it had the desired effect in that for the first time I can recall, the Arab countries were coming together to discuss the 'Palestinian problem'. Egypt didn't want them because they knew that the Sinai would become a nest of terrorists, and it isn't that many years that following the Arab Spring, Egypt (with the help of Israel) managed to clear the Sinai of the Muslim Brotherhood. Jordan didn't want them because they already have several million and still recall when that bunch tried to overthrow the Jordanian Royal Family (Black September).
Egypt have in the last week or so come up with a plan for the rebuilding of Gaza and the formation of a new government not involving Hamas whilst the Palestinians themselves remain in Gaza.
The plan has not so far been accepted as far as I'm aware. If the plan is adopted, it will be a big win for the Donald.
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I've not been following events too closely. But it seems the ceasefire plan is not working out as intended. I've only really seen the headlines which seem to be that Israel have blockaded aid and are refusing to move to the next stage. What is your take on all this?
 
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