You forgot to mention agent Orange.
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These guys found your joke hilarious.I intentionally left Trump out of the discussion.
A person with birth deformities associated with prenatal exposure to Agent Orange
Major Tự Đức Phang was exposed to dioxin-contaminated Agent Orange.
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is McNamara still alive then ?
they pulled out due to the war being un win-able , the press running riot , issues at home
militarily they were never defeated
Press release, excerpts, videos, archives etc are very much alive. Google it. Huge regret from McNamara and a terrible blow for America after losing the war. Much shame heaped upon those that propagated it and sent thousands of Americans to die needlessly. Not to mention those dying in South East Asia - during the war and since.
LBJ - lol.
i have numerous books and mags on the vietnam war
complete box set of videos on it from that walter ?? kronkite ?? think thats the bloke
The USA was never militarily defeated in vietnam ( as such)
all sorts of factors came into play , civil rights , the likes of Jane Fonda and the fall out from the Nixon / water gate caper
burning the draft card campaign , national guard shooting and killing several students at a university
press roaming freely around the place , the US were un able to control them and learnt a lesson from that
we will agree to disagree
the USA lost , but were never militarily defeated , it never happened
get over it
i have them mags as well
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Does retreat/withdrawal/giving up not count as defeat?
no does not constitute a military defeat imo
I dont think the US ever lost a battle in Vietnam ( un like the French)
The vietnamese won the propaganda war , but they were also responsaible for countless atrocities commited on there own people
but they never had a press core documenting what they did and beamed live on CNN
It was viewed as a huge loss especially when you consider all the lives lost, money spent defending against communism, only to see the Viet Cong and the Peoples Army victoriously marching into Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon).
marching in because the USA left
viewed yes
by which time the viet cong had been side lined
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