"have to" what ?You have to ...
What about "Wago alternatives" in bulk?but wago's in bulk now for best value,
Quite possibly true, but what evidence is there that such is the case?but worth it.
"have to" what ?You have to ...
What about "Wago alternatives" in bulk?but wago's in bulk now for best value,
Quite possibly true, but what evidence is there that such is the case?but worth it.
Buy for but"have to" what ?
Me having initially being able to buy a relative small quantity from SF now finding they are sold in bulkWhat about "Wago alternatives" in bulk?
Quite possibly true, but what evidence is there that such is the case?
I think they have always been available in bulk quantities from some suppliers. TLC currently offer a price for 100 of most Wago connectors, but the price per unit for 100 does not work out a lot less than when buying 10.Me having initially being able to buy a relative small quantity from SF now finding they are sold in bulk
There are no regulations about what brands of electrical items can be bought/used. All that matters is that items offered for sale comply with relevant product Standards.Question is, is there any regulations which you can buy or not? Surely they will know if its worth regulating or not.
There are no regulations about what brands of electrical items can be bought/used. All that matters is that items offered for sale comply with relevant product Standards.
They are still very much 'allowed', provided only that they are 'accessible for inspection and testing' (but opinions will vary as to exactly what that means). Nearly all electrical accessories, and all the devices in CUs etc, in the UK still use screwed terminalsI always thought it odd that the round screwed junction boxes are no longer allowed but terminal strips are OK, yet they both used screwed connections.
That's always been a problem with Screwfix - on countless occasions I've had to buy a 'pack of 5, 10, 25 or whatever' of items when I've only wanted one or three!Anyhoo - I do find Wago's expensive for the DIY'r as there are not small kits available in Screwfix
If they comply to a standard, there should be marking to that effect, and also an indication in the associated documentationHow can we check if they do or not?
It can get a bit complicated, but the short answer is probably 'no', particularly if the product claims (truthfully or not!) to comply with a Standard.What I'm trying to say is if I was to use the ones I found on ebay none branded ones. I won't be breaking any electrical regs ??
They are allowed, and always have been - provided they are installed and used properly which means the junction box is secured to the building fabric, cables are secured & supported and the junction box is accessible for future inspection.I always thought it odd that the round screwed junction boxes are no longer allowed
There are no regulations about what brands of electrical items can be bought/used. All that matters is that items offered for sale comply with relevant product Standards.
Regulation of electrical devices in the EU/UK* is based primarily on trusting manufacturers/importers to self-certify their products as compliant, and trusting retailers to do their due-dilligance on their suppliers. Large organisations tend to take this at least somewhat seriously, because if they supply substandard products and those products get someone hurt/killed they could be faced with extremely expensive lawsuits and recalls, not to mention the reputational damage.What I'm trying to say is if I was to use the ones I found on ebay none branded ones. I won't be breaking any electrical regs ??
Quite so. I've seen under the floorboards of countless houses with electrical installations of appreciable age, and I'm not sure that I have seen (m)any that did not have at least some examples of what you describe. So, 'acceptable' or not, I would therefore suspect that there must be very many millions of such things in service in the UKSlinging such things under floorboards hanging by the cables was never acceptable, even though plenty of people did and probably still do that.
Regulation of electrical devices in the EU/UK* is based primarily on trusting manufacturers/importers to self-certify their products as compliant, and trusting retailers to do their due-dilligance on their suppliers. Large organisations tend to take this at least somewhat seriously, because if they supply substandard products and those products get someone hurt/killed they could be faced with extremely expensive lawsuits and recalls, not to mention the reputational damage.
Marketplace sites do an end-run around much of this regulation. If you buy a product shipped direct from a retailer outside the UK then in many cases *YOU* are the importer and *YOU* are the one legally responsible for it's compliance. If you buy from a supplier that ships from inside the UK then you are not the importer, but who is? probably some company with little in the way of assets or reputation that will disappear before their substandard products catch up to them.
* While we have left the EU, I don't believe we have substantially changed our legal framework on this stuff.
Where items claim to be shipped from is irrelevant.Shipped from the UK. I don't hold accountability for it ?
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