Well I never.. common sense does prevail in some countries

It's a shame you can't spell Jiu-jitsu correctly ;)

Its actually Jujutsu but there are several spellings in use because the roman alphabet doesn't translate directly from the japanes pictogram 'alphabet'. So Ju - Jitsu is as equally corrrect as jui-jitsu.

lesson endeth.
 
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You Ninjas are all getting carried away.
Back on topic.
Choke hold?.......Dear god :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
But a rear naked choke is a killer... just watch a few UFC bouts to realise that..

Agreed, battering a tough guy with your fists is a non starter, a tough guy's face will be stronger than your fists..

Thankyou.

Here is a Krav Maga choke , see how long it takes before the person actually passes out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP5ccHbgUi4&feature=related

If you watch any hanging videos from the middle east you will see that they don't have the drop and neck break that we had but a simple slow strangulation as seen in the video above you will also notice that there is very little struggling as they are quickly unconscious.

anyway this should put to rest the assertion that you have to be Chuck Norris to handle a life or death struggle.
 
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Your the one coming across as a troll.
I'm a qualified bouncer and can fight drunk people

:rolleyes:

There you go again changing words to suit yourself and insult others.

Can you not have a civilised conversation, accept a choke hold can be beaten in less time than it takes to blink in the situation you mention. A simple manoeuvre will stop you in your tracks from either the front, side or front if you know what you are doing.
You may find not all arguments at establishments are caused by drunks. Something else for you to ponder. Hence it needs someone who has a few more tricks than a "choke" hold.
Your clearly good at one on one, with no resistance :p

Are you one on here who was called yale or something, your posts are very similar and you have the same disrespect for others opinions. Is this not a forum for discussion.

Sincerely sorry for the late answer here, and for any others I make on other threads. But I have just come back in from work. ( Thanks for the "Work-shy" comment previous). About to have "Dinner". As I have mentioned before, how can you judge whom you know nothing about. Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder?
 
Can you not have a civilised conversation, accept a choke hold can be beaten in less time than it takes to blink in the situation you mention.
. Is this not a forum for discussion.
As I have mentioned before, how can you judge whom you know nothing about. Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder?

1. Why accept something which isn't true?
2. Yes and I am dicussing or is a discussion in your eyes only classed as one if everyone accepts your view even when it is wrong?
3. You have done plenty 'Alarm' for me to be able to judge you
4. Indeed why do you have such a chip on your shoulder alarm.

Why do you stalk all my posts just for the sake of argiung everything I say or discrediting evrything I say.

best of all though 'Alarm' is how delusional you are to accuse me of everything you actually do yourself.

:rolleyes:
 
It's a shame you can't spell Jiu-jitsu correctly ;)

Its actually Jujutsu but there are several spellings in use because the roman alphabet doesn't translate directly from the japanes pictogram 'alphabet'. So Ju - Jitsu is as equally corrrect as jui-jitsu.

lesson endeth.

When talking Brazilian Jiu Jitsu as you were it's spelt Jiu but Japanese Ju Jitsu is spelt so. For a man who professes to be in the game you get the simple things wrong. :rolleyes:

As for Royce Gracie and his early dominance in the cage, well, we can see that dedicated arts like Jiu Jitsu are no longer dominant. The reason is that in the early days fighters usually stuck to one main discipline such as boxing and were unable to cope with ground work because they didn't touch much on grappling. So when faced with Royce they didn't stand a chance, he was in the right place at the right time. Now fighters have developed their skills and are aware of the importance of ground work things have changed.

Like I have said I have studied Jiu Jitsu from an early age, Gracie Jiu Jitsu. Introduced to Krav-Maga in the 80s.


I will also like to add that the British military don't focus on unarmed combat (special forces do) and are very much behind. It's very basic what you learn :rolleyes:
 
Not sure i want to get involved in the "history" that seems to be going on here... don't know who either of you are, or were !!

But a rear naked choke is a killer... just watch a few UFC bouts to realise that..

Agreed, battering a tough guy with your fists is a non starter, a tough guy's face will be stronger than your fists..

And agree with noseall.. the situation dictates... you see a scumbag attacking your own.... you'll batter and punch and kick and whatever's needed, but without any form.... just raw....

Yes chokes can be deadly but easy to get out of if you know what you are doing.

Basics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGehFPbYNIo&feature=fvwrel
 
But a rear naked choke is a killer... just watch a few UFC bouts to realise that..

Agreed, battering a tough guy with your fists is a non starter, a tough guy's face will be stronger than your fists..

Thankyou.

Here is a Krav Maga choke , see how long it takes before the person actually passes out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP5ccHbgUi4&feature=related

If you watch any hanging videos from the middle east you will see that they don't have the drop and neck break that we had but a simple slow strangulation as seen in the video above you will also notice that there is very little struggling as they are quickly unconscious.

anyway this should put to rest the assertion that you have to be Chuck Norris to handle a life or death struggle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGehFPbYNIo&feature=fvwrel

just the basics :rolleyes:

Neck breaking techniques is learnt in Krav-Maga you won't find them around on youtube though :LOL:
 
Whatever Peaps.

The truth is if the choke is being applied properly and your elbow is under their chin shrugging your shoulders will only add pressure to your already doomed position.
Besides I always take people to the floor first. Its the instant leveller of ability and allows you to control people much greater than your size.

One of the very first throws I learnt was as a five year old when we used to bend forward and pull people over our shoulders.
Would that defeat a well held rear naked choke? Possibly or it might possibly break your neck.

In any case your video assumes a static assailant. If someone tried to move to my right with the leg I would simply keep my legs wide and angle myself away not stand straight up.

I can't see the point of you all struggling like crazy to argue against the move?

Would the person with his trousers round his ankles who was raping my daughter have succumed to a choke from me - yes he would.

Was he a tenth dan whizzbang hakori wotsit doodah?

who knows but your continued attempt to discredit a choke as THE PREFFERED method to incapacitae an apponent with minimum risk to yourself is laughable.

Please show this thread to your Sensi.

I would be very interested to hear his take on your views...lol :D
 
Thankyou.

Here is a Krav Maga choke , see how long it takes before the person actually passes out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP5ccHbgUi4&feature=related

If you watch any hanging videos from the middle east you will see that they don't have the drop and neck break that we had but a simple slow strangulation as seen in the video above you will also notice that there is very little struggling as they are quickly unconscious.

.


The video is a bit different from a real life situation though. The instructor had willing victims for starters. I don't think in real life someone is just going to stand there while you gently place your arm around their neck. ;) ;)
 
I don't think in real life someone is just going to stand there while you gently place your arm around their neck. ;) ;)

Not to mention that in the incident in question, the 5 year old daughter was underneath and thereby at risk of further injury in any struggle.
 
I don't think in real life someone is just going to stand there while you gently place your arm around their neck. ;) ;)

Not to mention that in the incident in question, the 5 year old daughter was underneath and thereby at risk of further injury in any struggle.

You have just hit the nail on the head. He would have been on top you would expect and for a person to come up behind to choke they would have to lean over compromising balance etc

99 know jack about what he talks. In a standing choke the throw isn't the only method, groin gets it then straight upto the eyes just like little jack who stuck in his thumb ;)

By the way 99, you do know that many Krav-Maga techniques are banned from the ring..?

How the big boys play ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rii0r15lA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjmBPFPTq-g&feature=related
 
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