What a surprise the EU has offered us longer

[festive]

So if the people voted, in a referendum, to go to war, say with USA, on a false premise, the MPs should ignore their own good judgment and go to war?
That isn't how it works in any democracy. It never has, it never will.

OK using Mr Logics logic which is beyond all laws of this universe:

That's fine so when Labour win the next GE but an investigation discovers Labour ran a dishonest campaign and a complete and utter unicorn manifesto impossible to deliver, the tories manage to reverse the decision and regain power for another term. And we can say, hey that's democracy. What a waste of oxygen and everyones time ever reading this BS.

 

[Notch7]

Seems noone has an argument as to my points above?

Yes.

Parliament is in a shambles because leavers want a Brexit that isnt possible.

I dont like the EU it has too much power, but the UK is better staying in.

 

[festive]

Yes.

Parliament is in a shambles because leavers want a Brexit that isnt possible.

I dont like the EU it has too much power, but the UK is better staying in.

Which Leavers? The majority have been blocking May's deal check Mv1 Mv2 that's 90% Labour/Liberal Hardcore ERG DUP and some other idiots. The majority of MPs in the HOP are PRO Remain??? Is it the Leavers or the Labour idiots attempting to stall the process or a handful of Tory rebels?

Why are Labour blocking?? They pledged in their manifesto to honour the democratic vote? Nothing to do with this being a Tory led objective. (see my previous post)

 

[jasonzyx]

If given the Vote in 1939
Neville Chamberlain:
Let Hitler walk over Europe and Germany will leave us alone.
IN

Winston Churchill:
We must fight for democracy
Out


The Question is:
In or Out

I think and hope Out.
Would have won. But would we have known what we were voting for ?

I'm not comparing the EU as Nazi Germany. Just as all who voted out are not racist.

Then please explain the extremely tenuous connection.

 

[jasonzyx]

Seems noone has an argument as to my points above?

Seems like you have has at least two responses, you just choose to ignore them.

 

[jasonzyx]

OK using Mr Logics logic which is beyond all laws of this universe:

That's fine so when Labour win the next GE but an investigation discovers Labour ran a dishonest campaign and a complete and utter unicorn manifesto impossible to deliver, the tories manage to reverse the decision and regain power for another term. And we can say, hey that's democracy. What a waste of oxygen and everyones time ever reading this BS.

It wouldn't be democracy, it would be the law relating to elections, doing what it was meant to do.
Now if the law relating to referendums was doing what it was meant to do, i.e. stopping unfair, lying campaigns, it would make the referendum null and void. Buy a. no-one has made any kind of challenge to the referendum lying unicorn manifestos, or b. the Electoral Commission do not think that the illegal practices in the recent referendum warrant declaring the referendum null and void.
I'm sure that if either of the above conditions were met, the courts would consider the cases, and pass judgement. It could go either way, for the illegality of the referendum, (or election in your example), or it could allow the referendum (or election) to stand.
The Electoral Commission may have made their decision possibly because it isn't a binding referendum and MPs can decide based on any unicorn manifestos during the campaign. Whereas, an election is a binding vote on the consistency of Parliament.

Of course,an election consists of many thousands of smaller budgets, organisations, groups, etc. If one constituency overspent, the Electoral Commission has the power to force a re-run in that constituency. It doesn't make the whole election null and void, so your example is not applicable.


It isn't democracy, it's Electoral Commission supervision and law.

 

[jasonzyx]

Which Leavers?

Liberal, TIG, Hardcore ERG, DUP.
You knew all along.

The majority have been blocking May's deal check Mv1 Mv2 that's 90% Labour/Liberal Hardcore ERG DUP and some other idiots. The majority of MPs in the HOP are PRO Remain??? Is it the Leavers or the Labour idiots attempting to stall the process or a handful of Tory rebels?

Some are blocking because they want to remain, others are blocking because they want a different Brexit.
That is how Parliament is supposed to work.

Why are Labour blocking?? They pledged in their manifesto to honour the democratic vote?

Because they want a different Brexit. That is why they were elected. You cannot ignore their desire for a different Brexit because it differs from yours. There are many different ideas about what Brexit is or should be. You are bnot the only voter that voted Brexit. Everyone else is not subject to what your idea of what Brexit is.
That is the crux of the problem. There are a multitude of ideas about what Brexit should look like. They have been arguing among themselves since the referendum!
There is only one Remain position!
There must be a compromise. TM is looking for a compromise and has been doing so ever since, errr, ever since, errr......... ever since her deal has been blocked three times, 2.5 years after the referendum!