What size splash shoe?

[Sunshine32]

I've just had a clay gully and underground drain replaced due to breakage. The new gully and grate is plastic and a totally different shape and size to the original. Thing is now the downpipe doesn't sit comfortably over the new gully, so I've figured an anti-splash shoe or dog end will sort it by bringing the pipe further over the grate.

The downpipe is cast iron and 65mm diameter.

I can't work out if I need a 75mm or a 63mm diameter shoe/dog end to fit into the existing downpipe. I realise I'm being especially dumb but my brain is fried. It's been a mad couple of weeks.

Delivery is £20 so I want to order right first time otherwise I'll be incurring mega charges!

Cheers

 

[noseall]

I've just had a clay gully and underground drain replaced due to breakage. The new gully and grate is plastic and a totally different shape and size to the original. Thing is now the downpipe doesn't sit comfortably over the new gully, so I've figured an anti-splash shoe or dog end will sort it by bringing the pipe further over the grate.

The downpipe is cast iron and 65mm diameter.

I can't work out if I need a 75mm or a 63mm diameter shoe/dog end to fit into the existing downpipe. I realise I'm being especially dumb but my brain is fried. It's been a mad couple of weeks.

Delivery is £20 so I want to order right first time otherwise I'll be incurring mega charges!

Cheers

Standard down-pipes and fittings are 65mm/68mm.

 

[Sunshine32]

Thanks for the info I thought i’d made a mistake but it defo says 63mm on the description. So if my pipe is 65mm, I need to get a shoe or end of 68mm? I have only found 65mm, 75mm and 100mm ends so far with the exception of this 63mm.

Edit: Brain has finally woken up... of course I need a 68mm shoe! I’ve got so much going on right now i’m not firing on all cylinders. Thing is, I can’t find a 68mm cast iron shoe or end. All I can find is ‘cast iron style/effect’ in 68mm.

 

[Koolpc]

Mine are size 11....

 

[Sunshine32]

Anti splash shoe, shoulda said.

Massive feet btw.

 

[Sunshine32]

Anyone know where I can source this cast iron anti splash shoe or dog end please?

 

[noseall]

Thanks for the info I thought i’d made a mistake but it defo says 63mm on the description. So if my pipe is 65mm, I need to get a shoe or end of 68mm? I have only found 65mm, 75mm and 100mm ends so far with the exception of this 63mm.

Edit: Brain has finally woken up... of course I need a 68mm shoe! I’ve got so much going on right now i’m not firing on all cylinders. Thing is, I can’t find a 68mm cast iron shoe or end. All I can find is ‘cast iron style/effect’ in 68mm.

If my memory serves, cast iron DP's are smaller than their plastic counterparts.

 

[Sunshine32]

I’m scrolling through ebay now for a used one. I get the feeling they don’t make cast iron ends in 68mm any longer.

How convincing are the cast iron style/ effect knock offs? Stick out like a sore thumb or good enough to fool you?

 

[Notch7]

How convincing are the cast iron style/ effect knock offs?

the Brett Martin ones are pretty good, had to tell at a glance

 

[Sunshine32]

Great thanks! I’ll take a look at those. I need to paint mine white to match the existing cast iron downpipe. I haven’t painted plastic before, do you know if I need specialised paint or not?

I did cast my eye over the cast aluminium range but I can’t see any shoes or ends in 68mm either.

 

[datarebal]

There are several suppliers of cast iron gutters online .
You can usually ignore the next day delivery claim .. it's never happend to me . Usually 7 to 10 days.
Or a decent roofing merchant should be able to get in what you need ..

 

[Sunshine32]

I can only find cast iron shoes in 65mm online and I need a 68mm. I’ve looked at all my local merchants including Covers, Travis Perkins, KDS, Alsford Timber... nowt.

If anybody knows where I can get a 68mm cast iron shoe from, please point me in the right direction.

Or is a 65mm shoe going to fit a 65mm pipe? I can’t see how personally, but may be I’ve missed something?

Cheers

 

[Sunshine32]

I’ve got 2 options I think:

1) Buy a 68mm cast iron style/effect (PVC) shoe and paint it in white to match existing 65mm cast iron downpipe

2) Buy a 75mm cast iron (real) shoe and putty/seal in gap between it’s rim and the 65mm cast iron downpipe

Can I get some serious feedback on this please as these real cast iron shoes are not cheap nevermind the £20 delivery on top. I’m easily going to haemorrhage £100 for certain.

Edit: I’ve found 63mm modern cast iron shoes which would mean the shoes fit INTO 65mm downpipes rather than fit over them. That is bizarre surely?