What's a good Philip's screwdriver make ?

[Deleted member 174758]

Sometimes the tips are sandblasted to take the shine off (may look black) though a driver that fits correctly should not slip, even if polished. Especially PZ.

Good quality screwdrivers are normally polished and chromium plated (for rust resistance). Shot blasting (they don't actually use sand) of the tips removes this plating and the tips are then chemically blacked so that the unchromed parts can be clearly seen. AFAIK this originated in the 1970s in products made for the aerospace industry where chromium chips from screwdriver tips can result in bearing failure or blocked jets - potentially catastrophic in a jet engine for example

 

[Deleted member 174758]

JIS only exists to annoy motorcycle mechanics..

And Makita users! I find I need a JIS #2 for Makita powet tools

 

[foxhole]

Thanks, I'm in the UK, so I need to get a pozi size pz2 then ?
Thanks

Would explain your problem if you don't have a basic screwdriver set.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I think this is correct.... If not?

At the risk of telling people what they may know, Philips screws are designed cam out so when used in a factory a power tool won't damage the screw.

No marking, just the x for the blade.

Pozidrive is for building rather than factory assembly

x for the blade, then a second shallow x.

JIS is the Japanese Industrial Screw similar in intent to the Phillips but different enough to bugger up the heads

x for the blade, with a single dot on the face.

 

[Gary111]

They list them as "cross point" without saying if they are Phillips or Pozidriv.

edit: On zooming in , they are Phillips, the picture didn't load at all first time.

Thanks, so if most screws are actually pozi is there any point in getting these ?

 

[JohnD]

Mending your Cortina.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Thanks, so if most screws are actually pozi is there any point in getting these ?

Phillip's #2 heads are fairly common in electrical products, they are used almost exclusively on drywall screws (as opposed to wood screws which tend to use Pozidriv), some Tek (self drilling/wing type) screws and some collated flooring screws, but that's it, at least in my (joiner's) world. Pozidriv, on the other hand is used a lot in construction work, albeit in sizes #1 to #3

 

[rsgaz]

is there any point in getting these ?

That set? No...

But, you do need both. A decent PH2 and PZ2 'normal' screwdriver(i.e. not just a bit to put in a drill) are a must IMHO. Recognising the difference and using the correct one is even more important. Professionally, I prefer having different brands of each type of screwdriver in my toolbox, it's easier and quicker to be able to grab the correct one, instead of them all being the exact same colour scheme or style of handle.

 

[StephenOak]

But, you do need both.

I don't think the OP has said if he is trade or DIY.

You clearly use Phillips & @JobAndKnock has listed places where they are used, but as a DIYer I am pretty sure I have never needed one.

I have a number of Phillips bits (from sets that I inherited with the house and a couple of security bits sets) but I have certainly used other things (Torx, security Torx, tri-wing & spanner) more than Phillips.

 

[blup]

Wera are the best quality I have found, much cheaper to buy in sets than individually, the standard versions are quite short but they also sell long versions. Years ago Draper were good.

Blup

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Years ago CK were good. These days, less so. Wera are good screwdrivers, yes - I use their demolition screwdrivers (yelow/black handles, through tangs striking cap) which take a lot of abuse, also their impact driver bits

 

[^woody^]

I prefer having different brands of each type of screwdriver in my toolbox, it's easier and quicker to be able to grab the correct one, instead of them all being the exact same colour scheme or style of handle.

I still have my first four drivers from Wilko which are red for flat and blue for pozi, and the smaller heads have a smaller handle. Such a simple concept that is forgotten today

 

[^woody^]

Oh yes a demo screwdriver is invaluable - mostly for anything but screwdriving. I've used a couple fatmax drivers for years, and they are still going strong.

 

[scbk]

I don't think the OP has said if he is trade or DIY.

You clearly use Phillips & @JobAndKnock has listed places where they are used, but as a DIYer I am pretty sure I have never needed one.

I have a number of Phillips bits (from sets that I inherited with the house and a couple of security bits sets) but I have certainly used other things (Torx, security Torx, tri-wing & spanner) more than Phillips.

Not that it really matters, but I probably use a philips screwdriver more often than posi.
Posi and torx are usually woodscrews so they're done with a drill/impact drivers.

Philips will more likely be on machines, appliances, vehicles, etc so done by hand with a screwdriver

 

[pauldelahaye]

Another nod for Wera, great quality and comfy handle/grip.

Many lenghts and sizes avaiable,