When Does Lockdown End?

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

. apparently it's all the conservatives fault that Jamaicans didn't bother applying for residence within the 50 years that they had the opportunity to

It's reasonable to assume that if your parents migrated to a country seventy years ago on the invitation of the government to migrate, to fill the labour shortages, and your parents worked all their lives, that you as a child, being brought up, schooled, registered with governmental institutions, and completely integrated into the community, to the point that you assumed you were British, even held a passport, and never having visited the birth country of your parents (or in some cases deny you re-entry to UK), that you could assume that an application for UK residency would not be needed.
Unfortunately, you could not foresee that the ministers would mislead the government on illegal migration, and that government would enact an illegal hostile policy, apply unreasonable demands, deny you your legal rights, deny you medical treatment and other benefits, to which you were entitled, and forcibly repatriate you to a country that you'd never visited.
In addition, when the parents arrived in the UK, they neither needed any additional documents, nor were ever given any, nor were they ever advised that the changes in the law might give rise to the need for such documents, for them or their children, in the future.
Moreover, it wasn't the parents, the original migrants, that were affected, but their children, who might have been four or five years old when they arrived. It's reasonable to assume that if your parents have indefinite leave to remain, that you as a four or five year old dependent of them would automatically be included.
All previous BOT West Indian countries were affected, and other previous BOT such as Kenya, Cyprus, Canada, Sierra Leone, etc.
Despite requests from governments of these countries to the UK government to discuss the Hostile policy, and its repercussions, no such discussion was ever granted by UK government.

But if you want to blame anyone, and evidently you do, why not blame the Jamaicans. Your attitude and ill-informed opinion is disgusting. You are defending an illegal and inhumane policy of the UK government, instigated by two Home Secretaries, who mislead the government, one of whom had the integrity to resign and admit the mistake, which is an extreme rarity in todays politics.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

The really worrying thing is that it "could" create a sort of apartheid where vaccinated community's could be afraid to let children etc mix with non vaccinated communities. Their ignorance will only form more divisions. Multiculturalism........ what could go wrong eh?

Something that you'd actively promote, no doubt.
Rather than seek to address the concerns of those who have been affected by false information about vaccinations, you'd prefer apartheid?
Your attitudes are disgusting.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Due to so many, living in crowded housing conditions.

What causes crowded housing conditions?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

It looks like migrants and foreigners are taking the brunt of the blame for the pandemic, judging by the attitudes of a couple of posters on here.

When the governments policies are at fault, blame the foreigners and migrants. That usually works.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

our lockdown was not that different to france, Spain, Italy etc.

Yes, that is true. Except that some track and trace systems were far more effective.
UK's T & T system, and the approach leading to it, was farcical.
It's a shame that western countries couldn't learn from Australasian countries, who have had far more experience in dealing with such pandemics.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

All that juicy pork protein in it must do people some good!!

There is no pork in it.

Tw@

I know that muppet....... but some people are a bit more........... backward than others

Like the ones that suggest there is pork in a vaccine?
Why would anyone suggest that?
Why pork? Do they dislike vegans and vegetarians? Are they trying to dissuade vegans or vegetarians to take the vaccine?
Are they aware of the rollout of the vaccine in Israel?
Is there something wrong with the intellectual processes of someone who suggests that there is pork in the Covid vaccine?

 

[JohnD]

Like the ones that suggest there is pork in a vaccine?
Why would anyone suggest that?
Why pork? Do they dislike vegans and vegetarians? Are they trying to dissuade vegans or vegetarians to take the vaccine?
Are they aware of the rollout of the vaccine in Israel?
Is there something wrong with the intellectual processes of someone who suggests that there is pork in the Covid vaccine?

References to pork are often used to attack different cultures and religions, for example by anti-semites and neo-nazis.

I remember one of the vociferous RWRs on here referring to "pork-dodgers."

 

[durhamplumber]

References to pork are often used to attack different cultures and religions, for example by anti-semites and neo-nazis.

I remember one of the vociferous RWRs on here referring to "pork-dodgers."

Lmao...All you lot calling people Gammons...The irony.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Lmao...All you lot calling people Gammons...The irony.

The term 'gammon' refers to the skin colour of typical far right-wing politicians. They tend to turn a bright pinkish colour when they become agitated about their policies. The term 'gammon' has no reference to the type of meat it is, nor any cultural significance about eating different types of meat.
So anyone who suggests that the term 'gammon' when applied to far right-wing politicians, has any relevance to pork, or any sensitivities about eating pork is desperately grasping at straws.
The fact that it is pork is purely coincidental.

 

[charliegolf]

Polio is still in Pakistan afaik one of only 2 countries

due to there suspicion of vaccination

so not much chance of sorting out this COVID caper there ?

Damn! And I so wanted to go on my hols there too!

 

[charliegolf]

It looks like migrants and foreigners are taking the brunt of the blame for the pandemic, judging by the attitudes of a couple of posters on here.

Mainly amongst people who would tend to begin a lot of their sentences with, "Now I'm not a racist, but..."

 

[JohnD]

I know that muppet....... but some people are a bit more........... backward than others

Maybe dangee was referring to people like himself?

 

[JohnD]

We need a halal friendly vaccine............ or maybe a national advertising campaign stating people of colour MUST NOT TAKE THE VACCINE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES! Then we'd see a big increase in take up I suspect.

nope. He seems to have been thinking in terms of religion, culture, ethnicity, skin colour.

 

[JohnD]

people from certain community's

some sort of pattern to his mental processes....

 

[JohnD]

pork

yep.