When is this going to stop?

[Brigadier]

it still had its nuts.

As long as one doesn't have mine

 

[securespark]

Would that magic chip/insurance stop a dog maiming/killing in the first place?

Does the requirement for registration, licencing, MoTs, and insurance prevent maiming and killing?

No, but it minimises it.

 

[securespark]

Quite, BUT

a car can do nothing without a driver (except in the most unlikely of circumstances).

A dog can do what it likes: owner / keeper present, or not.


Unless you're proposing muzzling dogs at all times, including on and in private settings

Muzzling in public places.

The whole point about registration of dogs and public liability is that the owner becomes liable for the dog and it's actions.
A dog can only do what it likes if the owner lets it.

 

[Mottie]

Quite often, the 'type' of people that own these large, dangerous breeds of dogs do it to make themselves look hard and menacing. Having to have them castrated, chipped, insured, muzzled and kept on a lead in public looses that appeal. Genuine owners have no problem with that.

 

[Brigadier]

A dog can only do what it likes if the owner lets it.

Bless your naivety / ignorance..................

 

[Stivino]

Muzzling in public places.

A lot of these attacks happen inside the owner's home.

 

[securespark]

Bless your naivety / ignorance..................

If you are under full control of that animal, it can only do what you allow it to. If you are not in full control, then you have no place owning that dog.

It's all about training, which most owners don't bother with.

 

[securespark]

Having to have them castrated, chipped, insured, muzzled and kept on a lead

Maybe that'd be a good idea for the owners too.

 

[Brigadier]

If you are under full control of that animal, it can only do what you allow it to. If you are not in full control, then you have no place owning that dog.

It's all about training, which most owners don't bother with.

All of your "ifs" ain't worth a hill of beans.

 

[Brigadier]

Some dog trainer woman was interviewed, the other day.

"The problem is," she said "that people don't know how to incapacitate a dog, if necessary."
"Choking always works; I've subdued a Bully XL myself, using this technique".

What she couldn't answer was:

- and if it has no collar?
- could a child do this?
- and how would you deal with the second (or even third) dog?


Cloud cuckoo land...........

 

[securespark]

Let's simplify this.

How do you lessen the chances of any citizen doing something they should not?

You could apply your hills of beans to any "if" scenario, but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be laws or rules governing them.

 

[Brigadier]

Let's simplify this.

How do you lessen the chances of any citizen doing something they should not?

Remind me please; did any "citizen" bite the dog attack victims?

Were the (dog attack) victims unable to fight off their "citizen" attackers?

 

[Brigadier]

You could apply your hills of beans to any "if" scenario, but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be laws or rules governing them.

Absolutely: "no feggin' big dogs (that cannot be overpowered with reasonable force)" would be a good start.


See #1.

 

[securespark]

Did I not say that in a previous post?

I believe it was the one you replied to.

Something about a large mound of legumes.....

 

[Brigadier]

Did I not say that in a previous post?

I believe it was the one you replied to.

Something about a large mound of legumes.....

I said "no big feggin' dogs" in #1.


So what are you prattling on about, 12 pages in, if you're making an argument out of actually agreeing with me?


FWIW, all I've seen you post is about licensing, training, insurance, and muzzling when in public.
Oh, and some false-equivalence about banning vehicles.