When is this going to stop?

Instead of an outright ban, which is very difficult to police, why not class certain breeds / cross breeds as dangerous animals & up the requirements on any owner who keeps them?

I'm OK with requiring the owners of some breeds to ensure they're muzzled at all times in a public place, but to insist on that for all breeds is silly.
 
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This picture on the BBC website frightens me. What ****ing idiot lets any dog let alone a dog like that get that close to a baby's face just to prove a point? One snap and that kids face is gone.

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Think you are the master of your dog?

My old man taught me this one, have a play fight with the missus . . . & see who's @R$e it bites !
 
This picture on the BBC website frightens me. What ****ing idiot lets any dog let alone a dog like that get that close to a baby's face just to prove a point? One snap and that kids face is gone.

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Coming from mottie who owns dogs, proves that it's the owner's responsibility to keep dogs under control.
A muzzled dog on the lead will not kill anyone.
And for clarity, as we have members who like the obvious to be stated, freak accident happen, so a gigantic dog, muzzled and on the lead, might kill a small one by falling on it.
Happy?
 
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No an hour ago I heard a woman screaming and a dog barking outside my house. I went out and there was a big black GSD trying to attack a pug that the woman was walking on her lead. She was screaming and spinning round with her dog being spun and lifted with the snarling GSD running round in circles. Luckily the pug had a harness on so it wasn't being spun by its neck. I managed to get a few kicks in at the GSD but it made no difference. I ended up getting in between the woman and her pug and the GSD and kept shouting "NO" at it and pointing at it. I told the woman to leg it while I held it off but it kept trying to get past me but I blocked it. I was wary of turning my back on it and shouted to Mrs Mottie to get me a broom or something (oh, for a scaffold pole!) but we ended up having a bit of a row as she wouldn’t get one for me, thinking it would make the dog attack worse! By now, half the street was out but I suppose not being dog owners they were a bit wary of it too and I can’t say I blame them. The dog belongs to some foreigner who rents a house in the close opposite us and is a mobile security patrol worker so it’s his working dog. I’ve had words with him before when he let it shît near the post box opposite and just walked away. I told him we don’t do that round here. He apologised and picked it up. This is not the first time this dog has escaped either. That could have easily, easily been a small child or a baby in a pram. Finally I saw the owner coming down the close and the dog ran to him - I think he keeps it in his garage. His neighbour has complained to the LA as the dog barks when he is coming and going to work with it at all odd hours in the middle of the night but nothing seems to have been done as far as I can tell. I was still pumped and I made a bit of a show of myself in front of half of the street shouting at him to keep his f'cking dog under control. I got told off by Mrs Mottie for that too! "Sorry boss" was all he kept saying. The ****.
 
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This would only really work if you literally have a dog in your face but if it's possible, grab the dog's front legs, one in each hand, quite high up and pull them apart as swiftly and as forcefully as you can. This should incapacitate them.

It goes without saying that you would only do this if there was a grave threat to life.
 
A few years back Mrs filly was driving through town and she saw a motorbike on its side and the rider in black leather lying on the floor writhing. She pulled over and ran over to see what she could do to help. As she got close it became clear it wasn't the bike accident she thought it was. A woman was screaming, cradling a small dog that was covered in blood. The biker was beating the **** out of a 'pit bull type' dog, the pitbull or whatever had attacked the small dog, poor woman was powerless until the biker waded in. Pit bull and owner were wimpering wrecks by the time the biker was finished.
Wish I'd seen it.
 
This would only really work if you literally have a dog in your face but if it's possible, grab the dog's front legs, one in each hand, quite high up and pull them apart as swiftly and as forcefully as you can. This should incapacitate them.

It goes without saying that you would only do this if there was a grave threat to life.
What exactly stops them using their head and or mouth? Or would they be in pain?
 
This would only really work if you literally have a dog in your face but if it's possible, grab the dog's front legs, one in each hand, quite high up and pull them apart as swiftly and as forcefully as you can. This should incapacitate them.

It goes without saying that you would only do this if there was a grave threat to life.
I find that a brick on the head works better.
For smaller dogs a good kick under the belly usually cracks a few ribs and calms them down.
 
The other thing I've thought about is that if a dog was biting me, I'd try and force my hand down its throat.

I must stress that I am not a violent person, nor do I wish harm to dogs, but these are things that I would try and do if a dog attacked me and it was a matter of life or death.
 
The other thing I've thought about is that if a dog was biting me, I'd try and force my hand down its throat.

I must stress that I am not a violent person, nor do I wish harm to dogs, but these are things that I would try and do if a dog attacked me and it was a matter of life or death.
Or push a finger (other hand) into its eye until you can scratch its brain.
 
His neighbour has complained to the LA as the dog barks when he is coming and going to work with it at all odd hours in the middle of the night but nothing seems to have been done as far as I can tell. I was still pumped and I made a bit of a show of myself in front of half of the street shouting at him to keep his f'cking dog under control. I got told off by Mrs Mottie for that too! "Sorry boss" was all he kept saying. The ****.

I would hope you also reported it to the police?
 
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