Which camp are you in?

[joe-90]

As human beings, we seem destined to have to have something to worry about. And if there isn't anything serious to worry about, we'll make something up. This is precisely what c.c. is all about.

Have we forgotten that man was going to be wiped out by Legionaire's disease/SARs/bird flu/AIDS/swine flu/mad-cow disease/Mao flu etc etc.
(and they were all 'experts' who warned us!)

So all doctors are idiots then?

 

[Dextraneous]

So you've based your knowledge of climate change on just one weekend? I'm gonna have to laff.

Nice try. You're clearly snorting something.

 

[tony1851]

No the ice caps are melting for the fun of it.

"This very weekend of September 2013, we were being told back in 2007, would be the moment when the Arctic was “ice-free”.

Quite; It's just a pity that the experts don't get questioned on things like this more persistently.

 

[tony1851]

So all doctors are idiots then?

Those that like to go on the main evening news on tv, spouting off their knowledge of the latest 'threat', are.

 

[Dextraneous]

ELEVEN “FACTS” CHALLENGED

• SOURCE: English and Wales High Court Decisions

1. The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global warming. The Government’s expert was forced to concede that this is not correct.

2. The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.

3. The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The Government’s expert had to accept that it was “not possible” to attribute one-off events to global warming.

4. The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by global warming. The Government’s expert had to accept that this was not the case.

5. The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr. Gore had misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a particularly violent storm.

6. The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant’s evidence was that this was a scientific impossibility.

7. The film blames global warming for species losses including coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.

8. The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia.

9. The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.

10.The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7 meters causing the displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea levels are expected to rise by about 32cm over the next hundred years and that there is no such threat of massive migration.

11.The film claims that rising sea levels have caused the evacuation of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a false claim.

SOURCE: English and Wales High Court Decisions

http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/...[/QUOTE]Interesting read, eh?

 

[Dextraneous]

So all doctors are idiots then?

Those that like to go on the main evening news on tv, spouting off their knowledge of the latest 'threat', are.

I'm actually dead, having eaten T bone steaks with soft eggs on them

 

[joe-90]

So how do you decide which scientists you believe and which you don't? Are they all charlatans? Why do you believe in the 'big bang' then? You simply choose to believe whatever your vacuous little minds choose to believe.

 

[Dextraneous]

So how do you decide which scientists you believe and which you don't? Are they all charlatans? Why do you believe in the 'big bang' then? You simply choose to believe whatever your vacuous little minds choose to believe.

Rather like you then.

 

[tony1851]

'You simply choose to believe whatever your vacuous little minds choose to believe.

No; it's called 'having a healthy scepticism'.
Some of us are old enough to have been through all these 'scares' and have learned to take them with a pinch of salt.

The earth will still be around - with ice sheets going backwards and forwards over the land - long after our species has gone.

 

[joe-90]

Well I keep asking you but HOW do you decide which science to believe? 95% of scientists say that climate change is man made, yet you choose (without any rhyme or reason) to believe the 5% of nut-jobs. You don't even seem to think the climate is changing so you aren't in any camp.

 

[Dextraneous]

Well I keep asking you but HOW do you decide which science to believe? 95% of scientists say that climate change is man made, yet you choose (without any rhyme or reason) to believe the 5% of nut-jobs. You don't even seem to think the climate is changing so you aren't in any camp.

Where do you get the figure of 95% other than a newspaper heading?

 

[joe-90]

You prove that the newspapers are wrong then. Let's call it 68% to make you happy.

 

[Dextraneous]

You prove that the newspapers are wrong then. Let's call it 68% to make you happy.

Let's call it what you want if it makes you feel big

The vast majority of people who used to think about such things used to think that Aristotle was correct when he stated that projectiles would go horizontally parallel to the ground until they ran out of impetus and then would suddenly stop and fall vertically. It took over a thousand years before anyone dared to point out the bleeding obvious and demonstrate it by observation.

 

[joe-90]

So you believe in no science then?

 

[Dextraneous]

So you believe in no science then?

What strange leap is this? You need to get off that powder you're snorting.