WHO’ s allowed in!

[Vinty]

Wild animals belong in the wild, if left there they are no threat.
The practice of forcing into cages different species which don't normally come into contact with each other is unnatural and cruel.
Unless something is done to stop these practices far worse pandemics are inevitable.
It isn't just China that needs to clean up its act, other far Eastern countries are just as bad,Indonesia is another culprit when comes to eating wild animals, eating of wild bats, monkeys ect. is growing in these places.

 

[Vinty]

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[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Did "nature" take a load of disparate species from their usual habitats, and cram them together in filthy conditions?

No, "nature" didn't. Humans did. In this case, Chinese humans.

That is still speculation. The WHO are starting their search in Wuhan, but it's too early to say that is where it originated.
That is where it was first detected.

Researches think the virus originated in bats, but they don't know how it jumped to humans.
The Wuhan market didn't sell bats at the time of the outbreak.

 

[noseall]

Trump started it. Ask sooey.

 

[ajohn]

1) Actually it came from a fish market.
2) China did what they needed to do and notified the WHO very quickly. I doubt if the UK could match that. We don't have an adequate monitoring system,
3) They genetically sequenced covid and released the info at around the same point in time.
4) Where do some think the info on the R rate and how infective it is and it's effects on the population came from?
5) Where did info come from about the % of people who could spread it even though they thought they were ok and a lot of other info as well such as there was definite human to human transmission. A country can't handle things like this until they have certain information about it. Prewarning in many cases did little good.

The WHO didn't visit China shortly after it started. Must have been faked like the 1st moon landing.

Actually what comes back from this WHO visit may embarrass a number of countries. Our epidemic plan assumes it will get here and spread what ever they do. It didn't really account for something like this one which is actually SARS COV2. SARS COV1 is still picked up now and again even here. The west's real problem is that they were just not prepared for any form of epidemic. Some eastern counties were.

Covid is baptism by fire. It could be even worse and have the same problems. Virologists have been warning that something like this will happen eventually and given how we now live will spread rapidly and become a pandemic. One aspect of covid makes that dead certain. That also insures that there are very likely to be some cases about from before it was generally realised it was about.

 

[Mottie]

given how we now live will spread rapidly and become a pandemic.

Ok, you win the award for stating the bleedin' obvious?

 

[noseall]

Covid19 is a typical 21 century disease. Inevitable and a consequence of globalized life/living.

 

[Brigadier]

1) Actually it came from a fish market.

Misleading.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huanan_Seafood_Wholesale_Market



"With local demand present for the consumption of exotic animals, the market also offered exotic game (ye wei in Chinese) and other wild animals for sale,[15][16] a feature uncommon in most Chinese wet markets.[17][18][19][20] A price list posted by one vendor on the popular Chinese review site Dazhong Dianping listed 112 items including a number of wild animals.[3][8][21] The South China Morning Post reported on 29 January 2020 that the market had a section selling around "120 wildlife animals across 75 species."[22]

It was incorrectly reported that koalas were sold at the market. The price list included "树熊" (pinyin: shùxióng; lit. 'tree bear'). This term is used for koalas in Chinese communities in Singapore, Malaysia and Hong Kong, but in China they are called "考拉" (read as "kaǒ lā").[21] At the Huanan market, 'tree bear' referred to large rodents.[21]"


I know our local fishmonger doesn't have 75 species of non-fish for sale, including "tree bears".

 

[Brigadier]

Ok, you win the award for stating the bleedin' obvious?

Give ajohn a break, Mottie. Most of his posts are gibberish, so "the bleedin' obvious" is a blessed relief

 

[ajohn]

Ok, you win the award for stating the bleedin' obvious?

Only problem with that is that it wasn't me that said it. I'm just repeating what virologists have been saying for years. So you tell me why little notice was taken. That really is bloody obvious. It's also obvious that no notice was taken of near misses.

 

[ajohn]

Most of his posts are gibberish

You have just posted something and haven't even read it properly and seem to think china is a 3rd world country. The part they closed was the fish market.

 

[Mottie]

Only problem with that is that it wasn't me that said it.

In that case, familiarise yourself with the use of quotation marks so that we know that it’s not your words but someone else’s.

 

[ajohn]

In that case, familiarise yourself with the use of quotation marks so that we know that it’s not your words but someone else’s.

There is usually no point in explaining things to people who are media fodder.
Picking a few words out of a group of some one else's is typical of people who can't justify their own opinions.

 

[Mottie]

I'm just repeating what virologists have been saying for years. So you tell me why little notice was taken. That really is bloody obvious. It's also obvious that no notice was taken of near misses.

Pfft. Experts!

 

[Mottie]

There is usually no point in explaining things to people who are media fodder.
Picking a few words out of a group of some one else's is typical of people who can't justify their own opinions.

Did you say that or are they somebody else’s words?