You were correct all along JohnD

[wobs]

Than those MP's who are staunch remainers ? & they are in the majority (?) can stop Brexit & stop the country leaving the E.U .

but will they ???

Right now... probably not. I doubt they have the courage to do what is best for the country.

 

[HawkEye244]

Can't barrage the farage :

 

[blightymam]

 

[ajstoneservices]

 

[wobs]

Oh dear....

Government tax revenues will fall by as much as £31 billion ($38.4 billion) by 2019, if there is no major policy change. If it stops all payments to the European Union, the government could save £6 billion ($7.4 billion) a year.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/08/news/economy/uk-economy-brexit-25-billion/index.html

According to the Institute for Fiscal Studies. You remember them? They predicted Brexit would be bad.

 

[Judy in the sky]

Oh dear....

Government tax revenues will fall by as much as £31 billion ($38.4 billion) by 2019, if there is no major policy change. If it stops all payments to the European Union, the government could save £6 billion ($7.4 billion) a year.

Read more: //www.diynot.com/diy/threads/you-were-correct-all-along-johnd.470302/page-5#ixzz4PWhMN5hC

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/08/news/economy/uk-economy-brexit-25-billion/index.html

According to the Institute for Fiscal Studies. You remember them? They predicted Brexit would be bad.

Ahh so we were f***d either way.

 

[wobs]

Ahh so we were f***d either way.

Not either way, but due to Brexit. Here is the headline:

The U.K. government is facing a £25 billion ($31 billion) hole in its finances because of Brexit, the Institute for Fiscal Studies said Tuesday.

And we haven't even left yet.

But when we leave, we will still have the added expense of:

• Providing more money for the NHS
• Continuing subsidies for farmers and fishermen
• Continuing grants to deprived regions
• Funding the new government departments post-Brexit
• Making sure that manufacturers aren't out of pocket following Brexit
• Funding for Universities
• Funding for the Intellectual Property Office to take back everything now done by the EUIPO
• Funding for Research
• Additional Border Control Staff
• New Tax staff for Import and Export Tax
• New Trade Negotiators
• Funding for ensuring Standards
• Continuing Funding for Northern Ireland and the peace process.

So less income and more expenses to take on. Go Team!

 

[JohnD]

Continuing subsidies for farmers and fishermen

and to other landowners, such as Ian Duncan Smith's prosperous family,

"The minister responsible for cutting income support for the poor, Iain Duncan Smith, lives on an estate owned by his wife's family. During the last 10 years it has received €1.5m in income support from taxpayers."
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...rm-subsidies-blatant-transfer-of-cash-to-rich
Mr Smith is famously opposed to handout and subsidies (but only when they go to the poor)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...st-vulnerable-people-in-britain-a6941116.html

and

DailyMailSubsidies

• JohnD
• 9 Nov 2016

"I doubt Dacre knows much more about farming than the average reader of his newspaper, but you don’t have to be a farmer to receive this money; the rules say only that you must have “eligible land at your disposal”."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/21/waste-cash-leavers-in-out-land-subsidie

Luckily, not a problem to the billionaire owner of the Daily Mail, Lord Rothermere, as he doesn't pay tax.

 

[wobs]

And not forgetting grants such as a local waste to energy plant here in Hull:
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/how-...t-and-beyond/story-29824319-detail/story.html
The amount of EU funded projects in the UK is staggering when you take a close look.

 

[transam]

And not forgetting grants such as a local waste to energy plant here in Hull:
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/how-...t-and-beyond/story-29824319-detail/story.html
The amount of EU funded projects in the UK is staggering when you take a close look.

So is the amount that is wasted on dead beat projects

then there is corruption/ fiddeling .

Employing armies of pencil pushers & paper shufflers to do nothing of any significance

The amount of money wasted on bailing out the euro zone/ greeks who should never have been allowed to join the euro in the first place & they

fiddled the accounts in order to get in

 

[transam]

Right now... probably not. I doubt they have the courage to do what is best for the country.

No "doubt" about it

 

[Deleted member 63160]

and to other landowners, such as Ian Duncan Smith's prosperous family,

"The minister responsible for cutting income support for the poor, Iain Duncan Smith, lives on an estate owned by his wife's family. During the last 10 years it has received €1.5m in income support from taxpayers."
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...rm-subsidies-blatant-transfer-of-cash-to-rich
Mr Smith is famously opposed to handout and subsidies (but only when they go to the poor)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...st-vulnerable-people-in-britain-a6941116.html

and

DailyMailSubsidies

• JohnD
• 9 Nov 2016

"I doubt Dacre knows much more about farming than the average reader of his newspaper, but you don’t have to be a farmer to receive this money; the rules say only that you must have “eligible land at your disposal”."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/21/waste-cash-leavers-in-out-land-subsidie

Luckily, not a problem to the billionaire owner of the Daily Mail, Lord Rothermere, as he doesn't pay tax.

Fook. If I'd known the EU was wasting our money like that I and many others would have voted out of the EU.....

 

[JohnD]

I'm surprised you say you were ignorant. You should have chosen your government more carefully. The UK government blocked an EU reform attempt to cut down on these scandalous subsidies. The Quitters are so keen on them that they promised to maintain them even after leaving the EU. So voting to leave has not stopped them. Perhaps you weren't listening to the "leave" campaigners.

 

[JohnD]

I'm sure you weren't listening to me when I pointed it out.

Clue

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/01/farm-subsidies-blatant-transfer-of-cash-to-rich

• The gross contribution in 2015 was £17.8bn but the UK rebate was worth £4.9bn

• £4.4bn was also paid back to the UK government for farm subsidies and other programmes

What do you think 17.8 - (4.9+4.4) is?

Also
After Brexit, the UK would still have to contribute to the EU budget to retain access to the single market

The Outists say they would continue paying the Landowners subsidy out of UK taxation.

The loss of revenue resulting from UK losing trade by resigning from the EU would be somewhere between A Lot and A Huge Amount.

And perhaps not.
"The government ends post Brexit uncertainty by guaranteeing subsidies for food production until 2020, but leaves a question mark over environment subsidies."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07nn86n

"They would more accurately be described as land subsidies, as they are paid by the hectare. The more land you own or lease, the more public money you are given, so the richest people in Europe clean up. And not just in Europe: Russian oligarchs, Saudi princes and Wall Street bankers have bought up tracts of European farmland, thus qualifying for the vast sums we shovel into their pockets."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/21/waste-cash-leavers-in-out-land-subsidie
"This is arguably the most regressive distribution of public money in modern times. Taxpayers of all stations stock the wine cellars of dukes and hedge fund managers. As much as 80% of the funds are harvested by the richest 25% of recipients. The poorest farmers are excluded: you cannot claim subsidies unless you own or lease at least five hectares. A report by the European court of auditors reveals that the EU has no useful data on farm incomes, and therefore no knowledge of whether farm subsidies serve any social purpose."


You may be aware that Iain Duncan Smith's multi-millionaire family receives vastly more in state handouts than the poor or disabled, whose benefits he was so keen to cut.

 

[Lmfao]

Just relaxing here....reading the intrinsics of slave arguments elucidated by the uninformed but certainly indoctrinated participants of the farm.

Also supping a cool one....nice