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[megawatt]

No Steve, entrapment is where the police entice people to commit an offence and then arrest them for it.

No problem waiting outside pubs and breathalysing people who get into their cars ... Note, they do not actually need to drive it anywhere either.

I'm all in favour of anything which stops people drinking and driving irrespective of how little alcohol they have consumed as there is a simple answer ... Don't do it, get a cab.

MW

 

[RF Lighting]

I walk to my local pub.

Not only do I avoid breaking the law, I also get a bit of exercise too

 

[bernardgreen]

No Steve, entrapment is where the police entice people to commit an offence and then arrest them for it.

The thin line between enticement to commit and allowing to commit. Personally I think that if a person accepts the enticement they are guilty and the enticement is no more wrong than the person who leaves a valuable item in clear view in a parked car and entices a theft.

 

[megawatt]

The thin line between enticement to commit and allowing to commit

The police aren't allowing the committal of an offence simply by parking outside pubs as drinking isn't an offence (assuming you're over 18 ).

The offence is coming out and driving your car and so parking outside in a big white car with police written all over it in luminous paint and big blue lights on the top is actually a good deterrent I'd say and anyone who still gets caught is probably to pi**ed to notice and should be nicked

MW

 

[bernardgreen]

I totally agree with deterrant actions. If a police car parked outside a pub stop one drunk driver getting on the road and risking death or injury to others then it has been worth it.

Enticement would be the police offering to buy a round of drinks for those about to drive home.

Allowing is not going into the pub and stopping anyone who has car keys from drinking. That allows drivers the option of being a drunk driver and then being possibly caught and banned or worse.

 

[Shutpa]

Since this is the start of the 'Breath Testing Season' up here, this topic is a timely reminder to the silly few who still drink and drive!

 

[Coniferman]

If they make it 0% you wont be able to drive for something like 48 hours after a night out or use an alcohol based mouthwash (to cover the smell of vodka ) or eat Christmas pudding or have a chocolate liquour.

 

[tim west]

This is one where i disagree its black and white, there are many who can drink a pint without the slightest effect on their cognitive abilties therefore the ruling is blanket banning because of the ones that cannot tolerate alchohol as much.

The tests the police do such as walking the line touching your nose should be enough to prove you have all your faculties.

 

[billyo]

so them its the status quo keep it as it is ,grandad got it rigth first time out 40 years ago 2 pints thats your lot or walk you should still be able to drive to work next day and the state wont have to keep you cause u wont fail.
every ones a winner thats for sure

 

[Shutpa]

This rounds on me. Six pints of zero alcohol beer barman please.

 

[billyo]

make mine a half bolo its getting late

 

[securespark]

I walk to my local pub.

Not only do I avoid breaking the law, I also get a bit of exercise too

RF, I applaud your stance re not driving.

However, you have SERIOUSLY let the side down.

You're not supposed to exercise on the way to & from the pub!!

This is one where i disagree its black and white, there are many who can drink a pint without the slightest effect on their cognitive abilties

I strongly disagree. There has been research into the effects of alcohol on driving: even half a pint of stadard strength ale even taken with food has been proven to effect control.

Please read this:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0847/is_n1_v14/ai_9353143

 

[Shutpa]

You're not supposed to excercise on the way to & from the pub!!

I agree. Make that 5 pints barman please.

 

[tim west]

Secure, I can easly drink a pint without any effect on my faculties as im sure many others can, trouble with these studies is they draw a blanket opinion rather than pick up on individual results taken during the test.

 

[securespark]

Not wanting to argue with you, I fully believe that you believe your driving is not impaired.

But, reading that article, it is clear that even small qty's of alcohol can have an effect on co-ordination, vehicle placement & judgement.