wow.
Zion and the Art of Armageddon
- Thread starter Odds
- Start date
wow.
Sponsored Links
An English man, an Irish man, a Scottish man and an Islamist prophet married to two Jewish birds were in a pub.
Sponsored Links
Meanwhile, in the real world...
Local media reported demonstrations taking place in 50 locations across the country amid anger at Netanyahu’s government.
Israeli media reported scenes of confrontations between security forces and protesters in Tel Aviv, where demonstrators reportedly started several fires, before they were quickly put out by the police. People chanted “Police, police who exactly are you guarding?”, and “Ben-Gvir is a terrorist”, referring to Israel’s minister of national security, the Haaretz newspaper reported. Organisers of the antigovernment protests in Tel Aviv say that 100,000 people participated in the demonstrations, according to the Israeli media.
Israel said on Saturday its special forces had recovered the body of a captive killed in Gaza....
No Justice. No peace.@Al Jazeera
...by Israeli bombing. So far, 50 captives have been killed in Israeli air raids, Israeli intelligence officers say.
Local media reported demonstrations taking place in 50 locations across the country amid anger at Netanyahu’s government.
Israeli media reported scenes of confrontations between security forces and protesters in Tel Aviv, where demonstrators reportedly started several fires, before they were quickly put out by the police. People chanted “Police, police who exactly are you guarding?”, and “Ben-Gvir is a terrorist”, referring to Israel’s minister of national security, the Haaretz newspaper reported. Organisers of the antigovernment protests in Tel Aviv say that 100,000 people participated in the demonstrations, according to the Israeli media.
Israel said on Saturday its special forces had recovered the body of a captive killed in Gaza....
No Justice. No peace.@Al Jazeera
...by Israeli bombing. So far, 50 captives have been killed in Israeli air raids, Israeli intelligence officers say.
Recent stats show the Israeli offensive is killing a higher rate of civilians per air strike compared to their historical attacks, and it significantly worse than the global average for air strikes in urban areas.
Which does follow from their 'Wheres daddy' and Lavender tools.
Which does follow from their 'Wheres daddy' and Lavender tools.
That is what all of the fuss is about and has been for some time even from the US but some countries don't mention it.
The World Kitchen aspect has caused a flair up but the main reason it's still in the news as some countries want more information. This event is similar to others indicating a hole in Israel's ideas about how to run their war.
Talks resume today but given both side's red lines they are unlikely to get anywhere even though Biden has asked a few Arab counties to help get HAMAS to accept the deal that has been offered. Maybe they will. Maybe they wont.
It looks like some aid has entered from the north end of the strip. 2 part loaded trucks and a tanker. A UN mission. It appears to be intended for a hospital. Distribution of food etc still seems to be a problem due to people in some areas being desperate to get their hands on it. Those are the people most in need of it.
Israeli attacks are still going on in several places. That appears to be due to Biden's ceasefire mentions being related to hostage release but without hard info it's impossible to know. We don't hear the conversations.
I'm reading an interesting article that goes into more detail about the AI weapons system used in that attack...
A new investigation... reveals that the Israeli army has developed an artificial intelligence-based program known as “Lavender,” unveiled here for the first time. According to six Israeli intelligence officers, who have all served in the army during the current war on the Gaza Strip and had first-hand involvement with the use of AI to generate targets for assassination, Lavender has played a central role in the unprecedented bombing of Palestinians, especially during the early stages of the war. In fact, according to the sources, its influence on the military’s operations was such that they essentially treated the outputs of the AI machine “as if it were a human decision.” - during the first weeks of the war, the army almost completely relied on Lavender, which clocked as many as 37,000 Palestinians as suspected militants — and their homes — for possible air strikes.
During the early stages of the war, the army gave sweeping approval for officers to adopt Lavender’s kill lists, with no requirement to thoroughly check why the machine made those choices or to examine the raw intelligence data on which they were based. One source stated that human personnel often served only as a “rubber stamp” for the machine’s decisions, adding that, normally, they would personally devote only about “20 seconds” to each target before authorizing a bombing — just to make sure the Lavender-marked target is male. This was despite knowing that the system makes what are regarded as “errors” in approximately 10 percent of cases, and is known to occasionally mark individuals who have merely a loose connection to militant groups, or no connection at all.
Moreover, the Israeli army systematically attacked the targeted individuals while they were in their homes — usually at night while their whole families were present — rather than during the course of military activity. According to the sources, this was because, from what they regarded as an intelligence standpoint, it was easier to locate the individuals in their private houses. Additional automated systems, including one called
“Where’s Daddy?” also revealed here for the first time, were used specifically to track the targeted individuals and carry out bombings when they had entered their family’s residences.
“We were not interested in killing [Hamas] operatives only when they were in a military building or engaged in a military activity,” an intelligence officer, told +972 and Local Call. “On the contrary, the IDF bombed them in homes without hesitation, as a first option. It’s much easier to bomb a family’s home. The system is built to look for them in these situations.”
972mag.com
I have no doubt they'll keep using this technology and, despite two senior IDF officers being sacked last week, will make more mistakes.
In the very early stages gunships were ordered to hit anything heading back to Gaza. Later the IDF appears in various places and in some respects things get blurred in the regions close to the strip,
Meanwhile it seems Israel has or is going to withdraw all IDF apart from a military unit of some size around the middle of the strip. That seems to be the general area where aid deliveries get screwed up via riots when they arrive.
All vague. Well a video is released suggesting use of the north corridor, 3 trucks but there still seems to be some doubt if it was actually used.
So now theories about the reasons for the troop withdrawal.
Lebanon. Israel starts hitting deeper. They broaden the front, Not on the run as someone suggested.
I read in an Israeli paper this morning that thousands of IDF are being pulled from Gaza (they've just mentioned it on the radio as I type), suggests there's one brigade left, that suggests a couple of thousand left. Not much detail or any reason outlined.
I think they might be anticipating an attack by Iran. There could be a war coming - Israel might use an attack as a pretext to take out Iran's uranium enrichment facility...
It's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it. That's why the west needs Israel.
Hard to believe it's six months since all this began...
It seems Iran has pointed out that it has a number of types of missiles that can easily hit Israel. Poliitics suggest Iran wont be doing much if anything as it might have a detrimental effect on views on what is going on in Gaza.
Also pass on accuracy but Israel has taken steps to go to war with both Lebanon and Syria. I suspect this might in part relate to why Israeli were initially rather disappointed in Benjamin - he failed to protect them. All their military might protecting them from Arabs yet it happened.
Lebanon is reckoned to have some long range stuff but ancient Russian and may not even function any more,
Sponsored Links