He's a UKIP voter - his mind is made up - please don't try to confuse him with the facts...
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Let's not have any Party Political Broadcasts here, shall we? 
If someone wants to vote UKIP, that is their right to. Ban, the party you vote for is probably no better!
I mean, let's see the "mainstream" choices:
1) The party that has been cr*pping all over the UK for the last 7 years
2) The party that party 1 claim is to blame for all of the problems from their last term in power
3) The party that has no opinions on anything important and just sits there coming in 3rd place every time
If enough people vote for one of the non-mainstream parties, that sends messages to the houses of parliament that people aren't happy with the current choices. Just so long as we don't end up under a far-right or far-left government I am happy.
I know what my opinions are, and who I'm going to vote for, but this isn't the place to air those opinions!
If someone wants to vote UKIP, that is their right to. Ban, the party you vote for is probably no better!
I mean, let's see the "mainstream" choices:
1) The party that has been cr*pping all over the UK for the last 7 years
2) The party that party 1 claim is to blame for all of the problems from their last term in power
3) The party that has no opinions on anything important and just sits there coming in 3rd place every time
If enough people vote for one of the non-mainstream parties, that sends messages to the houses of parliament that people aren't happy with the current choices. Just so long as we don't end up under a far-right or far-left government I am happy.
I know what my opinions are, and who I'm going to vote for, but this isn't the place to air those opinions!
algenon_iii said:
Yes, but you are kinda missing the point of what I was saying. My point is, if the UK public manage perfectly well to read signs in kph and buy stuff by the litre in Europe, can't the European Commission find better things to do than to introduce laws forcing the UK to use metric units in preference to Imperial ones? Did you know that in France it is actually ILLEGAL to have Imperial units on food?
Marks and Spencer were fined an inordinate amount of money because their Paris store was found to be selling food that had the weight in ounces, as well as grams! Not instead of grams, AS WELL AS GRAMS! I mean, honestly! Did hoardes of Parisians fall ill because their chicken pasta weighed 8 oz? Did any of them really even CARE? I'll bet that M&S were reported by one very sad boring person.
Instead of doing the things that matter, making a difference to the world and doing the things that we wouldn't be able to do as individual nations, the EU serves only to try to standardise everything whether it is the name of your currency or the definition of what is cheese. If they actually did anything worth doing, I would be proud to call myself a European. You will notice that they haven't made any attempts to use a single language across the EU, because we all know what would be the logical choice!
And one more thing: if petrol was still sold by the gallon it would be cheaper. It doesn't sound so palletable when it costs £4 a gallon, does it.
Blimey - that's a bit OTT! I hardly think that gently poking fun at someone who supports the UKIP counts as a PPB..AdamW said:Let's not have any Party Political Broadcasts here, shall we?
Of course it is - I never suggested otherwise.
Since you don't know what that is, that's fairly ambitious reasoning...
Nor, I suggest, is it the place to air your opinions of the 3 main parties, as you just did.I mean, let's see the "mainstream" choices:
1) The party that has been cr*pping all over the UK for the last 7 years
2) The party that party 1 claim is to blame for all of the problems from their last term in power
3) The party that has no opinions on anything important and just sits there coming in 3rd place every time
If enough people vote for one of the non-mainstream parties, that sends messages to the houses of parliament that people aren't happy with the current choices. Just so long as we don't end up under a far-right or far-left government I am happy.
I know what my opinions are, and who I'm going to vote for, but this isn't the place to air those opinions!
Mind you - your sub-Daily Mail inconsequential prattle about Imperial weights and measures, and how it is important to you that your shoes say they are size 10 (or whatever it is) rather than 45 does hint at your voting intentions.
But do you know what the most laughable thing was about all the twaddle you wrote?
The first car to exceed 100mph was a French one
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He'll be your French counterpart, then....AdamW said:
Believe it or not, I am going to vote for one of the three main parties: just because I have contempt for them doesn't mean I won't vote for them!
My issue on imperial weights and measures is not of the Daily Mail type, thankyou very much! I just don't see the point in standardisation for the sake of standardisation. Certain things, yes, others, no.
Yes, should have thought of that one better, but I have looked it up:
Teehee
You see the thing is, whilst the majority of people can just say "pah, bloomin EU", I have to work with them. I work in a large multinational company and I get to see the petty squabbles over what goes in what country... It really makes you wonder if the EU is really that good an idea!
Vivre les sheds!
My issue on imperial weights and measures is not of the Daily Mail type, thankyou very much! I just don't see the point in standardisation for the sake of standardisation. Certain things, yes, others, no.
Yes, should have thought of that one better, but I have looked it up:
Teehee
You see the thing is, whilst the majority of people can just say "pah, bloomin EU", I have to work with them. I work in a large multinational company and I get to see the petty squabbles over what goes in what country... It really makes you wonder if the EU is really that good an idea!
Vivre les sheds!
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However, you often see 1 litre bottles of milk and think you're buying 2 pts. Well, the price is a 2 pt price anyway!
1 litre = 1.76 pts BTW.
1 litre = 1.76 pts BTW.
The problem is that it sounds like it.AdamW said:
I'm not fussed one way or the other. I think that on balance the EC has been a very good thing, and I firmly believe that there should be closer integration, and that this country should be part of it. BUT there are some serious problems with the way some of the institutions are structured - y'know, stuff like democracy and accountability, and the problem with the Daily Mail and the UKIP, and people who bang on about feet and inches, is that they divert the arguments from very important areas to those where it really doesn't matter at all. Every time some tabloid-minded idiot goes on about rules banning curved bananas he trivialises the whole debate.
Actually, according to the official LSR, Louis Emile Rigolly drove a Gobron-Brillie at 103.56mph on 21st July 1904..
I'm sure that your working relationships with the French must be enhanced by your racial stereotyping and referring to them as "fruitcakes"...
Well, you probably wouldn't think it to read my previous posts, but I believe that a United States of Europe would be a great thing towards the final goal of a fully United Earth. After all, at 400 million and rising we would be, what, the third biggest nation on earth. I once did the addition and I think it was about 550 million people if you include all the nations who are lobbying for membership at the moment. Now that is huge. Especially when you see the size of Europe compared to China and India.
However, we are hitting far too many boundaries. I feel that there has to be some give and take, and that the important issues must be addressed. I think that enforced metrication is symbolic of the effort-wasting that is currently going on. What does it matter if we were selling sausages by the pound? Or that a Bakewell Tart could be called as such without being made in Bakewell?
What the European Parliament needs to do is to raise their profile through proving to 400 million people that they are doing a good job. It isn't that hard in some countries, I have Portuguese friends who thought it was great as it gave huge cash injections to their country and helped to improve their tourist industry. Hence the lovely new motorways they now have. But in the UK, what have we gained from it? Not much.
More centralised funding might help, e.g. with ESA it is optional. Some countries (e.g. France) spend lots on it, others (e.g. UK) spend what amounts to naff all. If the Commission decided ESA funding outright then we would have a much better space programme, and Beagle wouldn't have been knackered.
However, we are hitting far too many boundaries. I feel that there has to be some give and take, and that the important issues must be addressed. I think that enforced metrication is symbolic of the effort-wasting that is currently going on. What does it matter if we were selling sausages by the pound? Or that a Bakewell Tart could be called as such without being made in Bakewell?
What the European Parliament needs to do is to raise their profile through proving to 400 million people that they are doing a good job. It isn't that hard in some countries, I have Portuguese friends who thought it was great as it gave huge cash injections to their country and helped to improve their tourist industry. Hence the lovely new motorways they now have. But in the UK, what have we gained from it? Not much.
More centralised funding might help, e.g. with ESA it is optional. Some countries (e.g. France) spend lots on it, others (e.g. UK) spend what amounts to naff all. If the Commission decided ESA funding outright then we would have a much better space programme, and Beagle wouldn't have been knackered.
ban-all-sheds said:
Oh you're just being stupid now:
AdamW said:Honestly, they think a duck says "coin!". Coin for crying out loud! If you think a duck doesn't say "quack", then you must be a nutter. Quod Erat Demonstrandum, they are all completely fruitcake and cannot be trusted with electricity.
(Note: I do actually speak French quite well, have a few French friends and do understand that "coin" is pronounced "kwah" by those fruitcake Francs. )
That was an innocuous comment that you are putting completely out of context. Hardly racial stereotyping.
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