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Many, many consultants were not happy with the ventilator fiasco.
I get that, but it was a learning curve and not something "they" new all along.

Treatments changed as we learned more.
 
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Ventilation is hard on the body, sometimes it's worth doing as whilst it's hard on the body not breathing is even worse for you. Ideally the underlying cause of someone not being able to breathe can be fixed and they can come off the ventilator.

If you're old or infirm then even if the underlying cause is dealt with then you might never recover from the damage being unconscious and on a ventilator does. Or you might get so weak on the ventilator that you wouldn't survive coming off it.

That has always been the case and is unrelated to the discovery that lower levels of ventilation that aren't as demanding or damaging worked almost equally well, which isn't true for traditional respiratory illnesses. That is why there was a rush for ventilators and then a subsequent relaxation as we realised we didn't need that many more, just a handful more.

There was a huge level of pressure on the ventilators and the intensive and high care wards more or less throughout. People were being triaged so that in normal circumstances you'd have been given a chance on a respirator, but in the pandemic your odds weren't food enough to risk tying up the last Intensive care bed.
 
I get that, but it was a learning curve and not something "they" new all along.

Treatments changed as we learned more.
Quite so, but those decisions should be left to the experts and politicians shouldn't be over reacting to hysterical news reporting. I know why they do it, of course, politics has become a popularity contest and all of them are scared to death the papers will make them look bad. And there's some truth in that, any time the media can bait politicians with some half truth, or less, they will. My issue is that press and media don't report the news, they create the news and virtually nothing reported today is the actual, 100% truthful account of an event.
 
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Trouble is, there were so many exemptions (and that was not counting those who ignored any semblance of compliance anyway) , I am not convinced by the merits of "locking down" next time.
Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not advocating lockdowns. I knew from the off that they would cause problems and I don't mind admitting that I more or less completely ignored them. Had to. Self employed, zero financial help, unless somebody was going to pay my mortgage, I had to go out and work.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not advocating lockdowns. I knew from the off that they would cause problems and I don't mind admitting that I more or less completely ignored them. Had to. Self employed, zero financial help, unless somebody was going to pay my mortgage, I had to go out and work.
Zero financial help ? We all go something
 
Ventilation is hard on the body, sometimes it's worth doing as whilst it's hard on the body not breathing is even worse for you.
A fair point. If you're going to die because you can't breath, you'd probably give a ventilator a go?
 
Did we? Must have missed that.
SEISS, Bounce back loan, rates, even new business got help.

Unless there LTD and there was still some money.

Looks like you did miss out.
 
A fair point. If you're going to die because you can't breath, you'd probably give a ventilator a go?
Normally yes, unless you're so weak that you'll never be able to come off it again. I knew someone in that state
 
SEISS, Bounce back loan, rates, even new business got help.

Unless there LTD and there was still some money.

Looks like you did miss out.
I don't call that financial help, I call that delaying the pain.
 
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