11-11-11 Rememberence Day

[Freddie]

saw eastenders last night and it bought a lump to my throat,i watched it with my 6 yr old daughter and i tried to explain why people killed each other kids of that age see things in black and white but h what do you say when they ask "were the enemy nasty people" it reminds me of that scene from saving private ryan when he slowly pushed the knife in the nazi to kill him,that is what war was really like,fighting for ones country and proud of it.when you watch t.v. lately theres outrage when a teenager gets stabbed but in the war thousands and thousands get tortured and killed for people like us.

In WW1 and 2 we werent the agressors so you could claim self defence for your actions

within reason

ok i was waiting for it just a sly quote and no explanation--go on Kendor explain yourself on this one

 

[oilman]

Freddie, I hardly think this thread is the one on which to start another battle. Be respectful and start another thread.

 

[Freddie]

Freddie, I hardly think this thread is the one on which to start another battle. Be respectful and start another thread.

Hilarious

 

[Thermo]

once again we lose sight of what the thread appears to be about and plunge into another argument. perhaps on this day of all days we could all show respect to the cherished memories of those who made a sacrifice so important and final that we can have debates such as this, and leave this post purely as a mark of respect to them.

 

[Freddie]

once again we lose sight of what the thread appears to be about and plunge into another argument. perhaps on this day of all days we could all show respect to the cherished memories of those who made a sacrifice so important and final that we can have debates such as this, and leave this post purely as a mark of respect to them.

THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! was my whole point Thermo

 

[Thermo]

enough said then

 

[masona]

once again we lose sight of what the thread appears to be about and plunge into another argument.

Ditto, I'm dissapointed it never used to be like this and the way it's going it beginning to sound like Screwfix forum

 

[dg123]

My paternal grandfather survived the battle of the Somme, he died when I was ten years old so I had the chance to know him and remember him. My maternal great-grandfather was killed at Valenciennes on 01/11/18 - ten days before the cease fire. I first visited his grave in the municipal cemetery at Valenciennes three years ago. It was a very strange experience. Here was the grave of someone who lost his life fighting to protect present and future generations, someone I felt I should have known but now he is related to me and not related to me.

We need to remember those who were cut down whilst carrying out their duty, they opposed those who would take away the right to life and freedom. The fact that we can have a discussion such as this today is a tribute to those who gave so much.

 

[joe-90]

You may be interested in this on TV tonight:



The Somme
Channel 4 Mon Nov 14 9:00 PM
1 (130 min., Subtitledin English, 2005, United Kingdom,


This powerful and touching docudrama recounts in detail the story of the bloodiest day in British military history. Told through the letters, diaries and journals written at the time, the film draws on the thoughts and feelings of the men who lived - and died - there to capture the eyewitness experience of the battle of the Somme.



joe

 

[Freddie]

All those who died

 

[ohmygodwhathaveyoudone]

My grandfather survived the Somme, another 55,000 didnt they were slaughtered like rats in a trap that one morning.

My grandfather went on to fight at Passchendale and to be awarded the Military Medal and survive the war although wounded twice and gassed at least once and end up dieing of TB 12 years later.

My gg grandfather died of wounds in 1915 and is buried in Neurve Chappell, my other gg grandfather joined the army at the age of 55 and died of wounds a few months later in 1915 and is buried in Kenya

that would make me very proud to have relatives that you had.

 

[Freddie]

Thanks mate

 

[Freddie]

Hope you watch the programme

 

[joe-90]

It was a top show didn't you think?



joe

 

[Big_Spark]

Excellent program, well made, respectful and whilst telling the story on the British side, it didn't forget the price paid by the French but also the German troops.

I have visited the war graves for both wars, they are a very humbling and sobering sight, but none more so than those for the Battles for the Somme and Yypres....