A Red Dawn

Some confusion over the presence of EDL members in Southport, since the organisation was broken when Tommy Robinson was sanctioned for formenting racism but apparently his minions still call themselves the EDL - due to a lack of imagination, probably. A few groups still exist abroad, notably in the Netherlands, where the far-right still enjoy rabid support, led by van Wilders.

Angela Raynor has suggested they be added to the list of terrorist organisations, but they're more like rebels without a clue, as they showed in Southport and Sunderland, by turning up without really knowing why, just ready to kick down a few walls for ammo and hurl racist abuse at Moslems who had nothing to do with the terrible events that led to three innocent lives, taken brutally in broad daylight.

Faarage has expressed a concern about the break down of law and order in society and, leaving aside the Tories lack of funding for police, he fails to acknowledge he's a part of the problem by taking to social media where he can insinuate a fork-tongued response, implicating Moslems are responsible for this civil breakdown while candidly ignoring the fact his words incite the riots in the first place. Not only does he deny this incitement but emphasises the words by repeating them, ad nauseam, wherever a microphone happens to be placed for his foghorn to acquire a wider audience than it deserves.

Now he goes on to imply it could "get worse in the next few weeks", and refuses to condemn the actions of the rioters and even claiming "...the far-right are a reaction to fear, to discomfort, to unease that is out there shared by tens of millions of people.” He wants to revive a broad 'suss' policy to include stopping people of any colour, and tougher sentences for "anybody carrying a knife"...

...i hope that includes those 'good people on both sides' who plan an upcoming pro-UK rally in Glasgow promoted by Tommy Robinson and the members of Stand Up to Racism also announced a counterprotest to be held in Glasgow’s George Square at the same time. Scottish police will have their hands full as Independence campaigners will be hosting a march in Edinburgh on the same day September 7th.
 
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The far right loves to create fear and hatred by blaming some outgroup for the nation's ills.
 
The far left loves to create hatred by blaming all rich people for the nation's tax revenues. More so, those lefties that can dodge as much tax as the richer people in society.
 
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The far left loves to create hatred by blaming all rich people for the nation's tax revenues. More so, those lefties that can dodge as much tax as the richer people in society.
I'm sure you can summon up a stat or two to validate that claim.
 
Labour will continue to implement the majority of the Conservative’s ‘five-point plan’ to reduce net-migration. The five-point plan saw the roll-out of stricter Immigration Rules, which were introduced to curb immigration abuses and deliver the biggest ever reduction in net migration.

So take care when you slag off the new government's policy on net migration. It's the one many people in this forum have been defending.
 
I'm sure you can summon up a stat or two to validate that claim.
Is that question to me, JohnD or both of us? After all, JohnD is the statistician of the forum. When it suits him.
 
Is that question to me, JohnD or both of us? After all, JohnD is the statistician of the forum. When it suits him.
You're trying to compare the tax dodging 1% to the migrants arriving illegally as the cause for the economic problems in the UK ? Good luck with that.
 
Apologies. It's clear you’re in the same camp as JohnD.
No need to apologise. I'm just trying to work out the equivalence between a tax dodger costing the Treasury billions of pounds, or the huge waste of resources by government officials, such as the £700 million wasted on the Rwanda scheme, to a skint migrant stepping off the boat.
 
...people eagerly grab disinformation to fuel their criminal activity. Lies and disinformation mellifluously roll off their tongue like water to those sufficiently gullible to believe it. Look at the very recent criminal activity that has been taking place up and down the country fuelled by disinformation and bigotry.
It's pointless trying to persuade them out of their bigotry. All you can hope for, is to expose them in in their true light, and that the providers of the platform, which they exploit to foment their community division and hatred, will recognise their share of responsibility and curtail their hateful comments.
And the ultimate deterrent is proper punishment for their part in criminal activity.

Hope not Hate.

Permit the cross-thread quote but it touches on the Jennings toon from yesterdays Grauniad where he points out the way tabloids like to exaggerate a headline that many 'readers' take in without really finding out the detail of an event.They need to sell papers as a business but also require stronger guidelines to make sure such a story doesn't trigger their audience into the kind of violence last weekend.

"If it bleeds, it leads" is an old industry adage that deserves closer scrutiny to what we expect from a news story, and few programmes like Mediawatch are dedicated to listening to their audience in order to improve the quality of reporting the news.
 
Permit the cross-thread quote but it touches on the Jennings toon from yesterdays Grauniad where he points out the way tabloids like to exaggerate a headline that many 'readers' take in without really finding out the detail of an event.They need to sell papers as a business but also require stronger guidelines to make sure such a story doesn't trigger their audience into the kind of violence last weekend.

"If it bleeds, it leads" is an old industry adage that deserves closer scrutiny to what we expect from a news story, and few programmes like Mediawatch are dedicated to listening to their audience in order to improve the quality of reporting the news.
I normally don't pay much attention to interpreting the comment behind your presentation of such toons. But that one certainly encapsulates the probability of remarks, not illegal or defamatory per se, fuelling the prejudices of many who are easily led.
Thanks for the pointer.
 
I normally don't pay much attention to interpreting the comment behind your presentation of such toons. But that one certainly encapsulates the probability of remarks, not illegal or defamatory per se, fuelling the prejudices of many who are easily led.
Thanks for the pointer.
Most of the toons are self-explanatory, really but a broader caption for added context is useful, especially with a Rowson where he weaves several references into the narrative.
 
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