"A Society that believes in nothing?"

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IronNaz said:
Since where does Islam state sex is for reproduction only? Islam clearly states sex is not just for reproduction but for pleasure also. Islam promotes contraception. In fact did you know a man OR a muslim woman can use lack of sexual satisfaction as grounds for divorce?

Oops, 0ops and thrice oops! That's me telt. :oops: :oops: :oops:

I must've picked up some duff information from somewhere so, in the interests of my further education, are Muslims encouraged to learn how to use ALL of their sexual equipment? :) :) :)

erm what other sexual equipment is there, apart from the usual?!

and yes Muslims ARE allowed to perform oral sex, just not allowed to swallow :) (this is the view of most scholars)
 
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I used to know loads of muslim guys and I have been on holiday to muslim countries and practically every one I have met drinks,s##s and smoked

They do exactly the same crap as anyone else and so do the girls
They all play nice when mummy and daddy are around but when they are not they get up to EVERYTHING

A mate of mine (female and asian) told new she knew of loads of girls who got married as virgins
When they were FAR from it esp those living in the uk

Don't believe the hype they just don't admit it

The unlucky ones get honour killed
 
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IronNaz said:
Since where does Islam state sex is for reproduction only? Islam clearly states sex is not just for reproduction but for pleasure also. Islam promotes contraception. In fact did you know a man OR a muslim woman can use lack of sexual satisfaction as grounds for divorce?

Oops, 0ops and thrice oops! That's me telt. :oops: :oops: :oops:

I must've picked up some duff information from somewhere so, in the interests of my further education, are Muslims encouraged to learn how to use ALL of their sexual equipment? :) :) :)

erm what other sexual equipment is there, apart from the usual?!

and yes Muslims ARE allowed to perform , just not allowed to swallow :) (this is the view of most scholars)
Not so good for Catholics - look up the story of Onan in Genesis ;)
 
I used to know loads of muslim guys and I have been on holiday to muslim countries and practically every one I have met drinks,s##s and smoked

They do exactly the same crap as anyone else and so do the girls
They all play nice when mummy and daddy are around but when they are not they get up to EVERYTHING

A mate of mine (female and asian) told new she knew of loads of girls who got married as virgins
When they were FAR from it esp those living in the uk

Don't believe the hype they just don't admit it

The unlucky ones get honour killed

i'm sorry to have to say this but the above post is absolute nonsense.

You may get some muslims who drink or do the things mentioned above, but i can assure you these are a minority. The majority of Muslims will live pretty close to islamic ideals. Living in a muslim community of 40'000 i see all sorts, and i can confidently say most follow their religion relatively closely.
 
Most Muslims are that far away socially and culturally from the average white Brit that it's a wonder that we can still interbreed.

It beats me why you all want to live here when you pretend you live in a foreign country anyway.

I guess it's the benefit system eh?
 
Most Muslims are that far away socially and culturally from the average white Brit that it's a wonder that we can still interbreed.

It beats me why you all want to live here when you pretend you live in a foreign country anyway.

Firstly, we live here because many are born here.

Secondly, wearing a hijab (scarf) or wearing Islamic clothing is not illegal. We are free to dress and live as we chose as long as its within the law, so again, why the issue? Sikh and Hindu's wear the Turban, or Sari's etc and look very different, yet you dont mention them. So why are you focusing on Muslims? I suspect you are getting your facts from the anti-muslim EDL.

If we dont want to have lose sexual morals, be promiscuis, sleep around, get drunk out our heads at the weekend, get rowdy and behave in a manner which you see in most town centers at weekend nights, whats the issue? Why does this bother you so much?

I guess it's the benefit system eh?

Such a stupid comment doesnt really deserve a response.

I'm all for debating and discussing, but i'm not going to get drawn into silly arguments like this.
 
It beats me why you all want to live here when you pretend you live in a foreign country anyway.

I guess it's the benefit system eh?
If the shoe was on the other foot, wouldn't we all do the same?
 
It is a good question actually to ask....

If you want to retain your own culture and society, why move to a foreign country?
 
It is a good question actually to ask....

If you want to retain your own culture and society, why move to a foreign country?

It can be for many reasons, but almost always economic. People want to better the situation for their families, and give their children better oppurtunities for their futures. However in doing so, they dont want to compromise on many values they hold dear, values that have stood the test of time, things like morality, honour, respect, family values, strong work ethic, religious values, strong community built around a place of worship, be it a Mosque, a Gurdwara, a Temple etc.
 
We and Hindu's wear the Turban, or Sari's etc and look very different, yet you dont mention them. So why are you focusing on Muslims?
Yes, another concession made in the name of religion; you don’t have to wear a motorcycle helmet.

Once again, religion wins over common sense and a 37 year old law to protect from serious head injury lest accusations of discrimination abound.
 
It beats me why you all want to live here when you pretend you live in a foreign country anyway.

I guess it's the benefit system eh?
If the shoe was on the other foot, wouldn't we all do the same?

some may come here for the benefits but i can assure you most come here for the oppurtunity to work in a secure, stable strong economy. Many asians and arabs have gone into business and are now doing very well. Many have educated their children who are now successful in finance, media, medical fields, engineering etc.
 
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