Anyone got any evidence for a god?

[cajar]

Well your statement presupposes that I will meet a god, which I don't think will happen, but I will take your question as a hypothetical one and answer it seriously.

I would say, god, you did not provide any evidence of your existence. You equipped me with critical thinking and the ability to discern truth from fiction and the case against your existence was so great that any reasonable being would have drawn the same conclusion. The bible was handed down through thousands of years and contained so many inaccuracies (noah's ark shown to be impossible, claims that sorcery was real, no mention of evolution etc etc) that I would have not been using my intelligence fully if I were to accept it as truth. Not to mention priests you allowed to work in your churches in your name committing sodomy. Furthermore, look at all the competing gods that you allowed to be worshiped without the sort of intervention that you supposedly did in the bible (knocking down statues of false gods etc) and you will understand why I had no reason to believe you existed.

we will all meet him,you can be sure of that,its appointed for man to die,then the judgement.
well the evidence is in his creation, including you. the bible says your whithout excuse,not to believe that this creation was made by God.

you can not blame other mans sins,priests or not,as excuse not to search for God,and the truth. your accountable to yourself and your own actions not them.

just to add, i am accountable, so dont think i am any better than any one else,but i trust in christ,as my redeemer not myself.all i am doing is sharing what i know is true.

yes there are alot of false religions, i give you a head start, Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
,ask God to help you see and he will.

were is the claim that noahs ark was impossible.

evolution,is not true,thats why its not in Gods word. the bible

well Muhammad said "Allah is the one true god". can you prove otherwise?

 

[Mikefromlondon]

And we do not know how to convert any matter back into energy

Hmm, the Chinese have been converting matter into energy for about a thousand years (fireworks) Alfred Nobel successfully converted matter into energy when he invented dynamite and Ernest Rutherford successfully split the atom, thus converting matter into energy (the foundation of nuclear physics) Oppenheimer took this to it's logical conclusion with the Manhattan Project, converting Uranium into energy (highly successfully it would seem)

this is where we think only God is smart enough to having created our universe from his Energy

Operative word has been highlighted for you MFL. You think,,,,,, But thinking something, isn't proof is it ?

Perhaps I am wrong here to a point, the only snag as far as I am concerned is that I agree certain materials do yield large amounts of stored chemical energy in the form of heat and explosive forces, or in the case of radioactive materials like uranium that yields vast amounts of nuclear (atomic energy) But if I am not wrong, they all leave residue behind and Don't totally vanish altogether into dark energy, as that is what I was expecting matter to vanish into thin air so to speak, leaving absolutely no trace that it ever existed,, but i guess that may be impossible for us to accomplish. Or that it is just not possible like we cannot exceed speed of light.

I expected that when matter is converted back to 100% energy then, it should leave absolutely no trace, no residue, no heat, no explosive forces, but I guess I am expecting a miracle here. just like a magician can vanish objects leaving no trace, apart from the fact that is an art of trickery or illusion.

 

[Mikefromlondon]

The power of logic can resolve many things that cannot be resolved using other methods, but I am still trying to work out how to use this logic correctly in order to figure out what came first an egg or a hen

here is my logical conclusion:
Logic says, egg can only be made by the chicken, therefore chicken must have first been created by someone or designed by someone or something in order for it to create future chickens from its eggs instead of the designer/developer having to create a chicken every time, in other words like we men would spend hours making a mould, do all the machining etc, and then once a mould is ready, we can make millions of castings from it.

Now you see the power of logic how it can resolve some tricky issues.

But there will still be some who will disagree with logic.

 

[wobs]

we will all meet him,you can be sure of that,its appointed for man to die,then the judgement.
well the evidence is in his creation, including you. the bible says your whithout excuse,not to believe that this creation was made by God.

you can not blame other mans sins,priests or not,as excuse not to search for God,and the truth. your accountable to yourself and your own actions not them.

just to add, i am accountable, so dont think i am any better than any one else,but i trust in christ,as my redeemer not myself.all i am doing is sharing what i know is true.

yes there are alot of false religions, i give you a head start, Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
,ask God to help you see and he will.

were is the claim that noahs ark was impossible.

evolution,is not true,thats why its not in Gods word. the bible

Not sure if serious.

Here are a few:
http://www.huecotanks.com/debunk/flood.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html

I assume you're not CofE or Catholic then:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/21/archbishop_backs_evolution/

 

[EFLImpudence]

Now, that's logic.

 

[joe-90]

But it is pointless as it doesn't deal with whether there is a god. God is what happened before the big bang, and logic is what happens after. The two are incongruous like apples and bananas.

 

[wobs]

But it is pointless as it doesn't deal with whether there is a god. God is what happened before the big bang, and logic is what happens after. The two are incongruous like apples and bananas.

Logical fallacy, as already pointed out.

Just because you don't know what happened does not mean it was God.
Once again you're using Argument from incredulity.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity

 

[wobs]

Science is about HOW the universe works.

God is about WHY the universe is here.

Simples.

The universe needs no reason.

It exists.

Your need for a reason for the universe is irrelevant.

 

[joe-90]

And ergo neither does God.

 

[wobs]

And ergo neither does God.

Again wrong.
That the universe needs no reason to exist, does not extend to any God as your fallacy is based upon the need for one.

You are trying for a circular argument.

 

[joe-90]

The universe exists.

Once it didn't exist.

Scientists tell us it came into existence a finite time ago.

So where did it come from?

Or what acted upon nothing to make it a something?

Call it what you like - but for arguments sake, let's just call it God eh?

 

[breadnbutter]

we will all meet him,you can be sure of that,its appointed for man to die,then the judgement.
well the evidence is in his creation, including you. the bible says your whithout excuse,not to believe that this creation was made by God.

you can not blame other mans sins,priests or not,as excuse not to search for God,and the truth. your accountable to yourself and your own actions not them.

just to add, i am accountable, so dont think i am any better than any one else,but i trust in christ,as my redeemer not myself.all i am doing is sharing what i know is true.

yes there are alot of false religions, i give you a head start, Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
,ask God to help you see and he will.

were is the claim that noahs ark was impossible.

evolution,is not true,thats why its not in Gods word. the bible

Not sure if serious.

Here are a few:
http://www.huecotanks.com/debunk/flood.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html

I assume you're not CofE or Catholic then:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/21/archbishop_backs_evolution/[/QUOTE]

thanks for the info, lot to read , to much to discuss.

but got to be a joke when archbishop believes in evolution.
God made all living things including man and women,in 6 days. like it or lump it. evolution is a lie.

unless you recieve christ, you will always doubt all your life, you need him to give you the spirituel eyes, then you will understand,untill then you will be gropeing in the dark.

 

[breadnbutter]

Well your statement presupposes that I will meet a god, which I don't think will happen, but I will take your question as a hypothetical one and answer it seriously.

I would say, god, you did not provide any evidence of your existence. You equipped me with critical thinking and the ability to discern truth from fiction and the case against your existence was so great that any reasonable being would have drawn the same conclusion. The bible was handed down through thousands of years and contained so many inaccuracies (noah's ark shown to be impossible, claims that sorcery was real, no mention of evolution etc etc) that I would have not been using my intelligence fully if I were to accept it as truth. Not to mention priests you allowed to work in your churches in your name committing sodomy. Furthermore, look at all the competing gods that you allowed to be worshiped without the sort of intervention that you supposedly did in the bible (knocking down statues of false gods etc) and you will understand why I had no reason to believe you existed.

we will all meet him,you can be sure of that,its appointed for man to die,then the judgement.
well the evidence is in his creation, including you. the bible says your whithout excuse,not to believe that this creation was made by God.

you can not blame other mans sins,priests or not,as excuse not to search for God,and the truth. your accountable to yourself and your own actions not them.

just to add, i am accountable, so dont think i am any better than any one else,but i trust in christ,as my redeemer not myself.all i am doing is sharing what i know is true.

yes there are alot of false religions, i give you a head start, Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
,ask God to help you see and he will.

were is the claim that noahs ark was impossible.

evolution,is not true,thats why its not in Gods word. the bible

well Muhammad said "Allah is the one true god". can you prove otherwise?

as said. Jesus is the way the truth,and the life no man can come to God but through him.

 

[pred]

You lot need to lighten up!




Benedictus

Here is the latest from our newly ordained Pope Francis.
If you are Catholic or know a Catholic you'll appreciate this.

Pope Francis recently finished his sermon. He ended it with the Latin phrase, "Tuti Homini" - Blessed be Mankind.
A Woman's Rights Group approached the Pope the next day. They noticed that the Pope blessed all Mankind, but not Womankind.
So the next day, after his sermon, the Pope concluded by saying, "Tuti Homini, et Tuti Femini" - Blessed be Mankind and Womankind.
The following day, a Gay Rights Group approached the Pope. They said that they noticed that he blessed Mankind and Womankind and asked if he could also bless gay people.
The Pope said, "Sure."
The next day the Pope concluded his sermon with, "Tuti Homini, et Tuti Femini, et Tuti Fruiti."

 

[Dan Robinson]

BnB - shall I start throwing Bible quotes back at you again?