david and julie said:
Frankly it's a dumb question.
I said in my first post on this that the uk is already full, although the government don't think so. They permit immigration for two reasons. Firstly to comply with EEC regs which I totally disagree with and secondly because of a perceived labour shortage, rightly or wrongly I don't know.
Oxfam estimate about $50 billion per annum is lost through off shore tax schemes alone. Go to their web site. You can split hairs as to whether this is avoidance or evasion, either way the loss of revenue to the public dwarfs any thing illegals do.
the point I am making is that all this gets ignored as do other far bigger issues like the continuing daily carnage on our roads, but illegal immigration doesn't, partly through media distortion and partly through racist attitudes. The posts on this subject here are typical of peoples attitudes to this in that it clearly sits at the front of their minds when the issues that actually matter and are costing us money and lives are ignored and tolerated
Whats the bigger issue, the $50 billion tax lost and the average 3,500 people killed and 33,500 maimed on the roads every year or the fact that people are here illegally working. I know what frightens me when my kids leave for school.
Most illegals are doing stuff no one else does any way, just like black immigrants in the 50's brought here to work on the railways and transport because white folk didn't want to get their hands dirty anymore. Their doing all the c**p jobs no one wants, gutting chickens, cleaning fish, filling skips and all the rest of it. The chinese workers drowned in Morecambe bay are a good example, I don't see any desperate anglo saxons willing to risk their necks in the pitch black with the tide coming in.
No one wants to pay more than they have to for anything and thats why there is a ready source of employers for these people. Basic supply and demand, it's a capitalist society and thats what you get, personally I accept it as part of the basic economic nature of our society. It's an unavoidable evil
There is a problem with illegal immigration but it's not what really matters, it's what people want to matter because its easy, they can talk about them and us and "race wars" and look down their nose at them and talk about deportation and all the rubbish that goes with it
What will actually cause people a problem won't be an illegal immigrant it' s most likely to be a white p**s artist in a company car who kills or maims you or yours, but nobody gets up in arms about that or threatens arson attacks like they do with illegal immigrants
Why not, the reason is simple they are at best uninformed and at worst racist fools and hypocrites who don't understand how this countrys economy works or what actually matters to them.
I don't know whats in yours or Joe-90s head but I am pretty sure you are not up in arms about any of the things iv'e mentioned here. There won't be a new thread about licensing hours or any impassioned posts about road traffic deaths or alcohol abuse but their might well be one whining about speed cameras or some ethnic minority or other
I assume any one who posts here is a reasonable human being so as far as I am concerned all of these apparently obsessive posts on the subject of race which pop up on this board and then degenerate into slanging matches are just unfortunate, not the work of racists
If you step back from the issue and think about it perhaps it's time people had another look at their priorities
