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[ban-all-sheds]

**** is the way to express the meaning of the word racist

I can think of a number of possibilities for "****" which would mean I agree with you

its not real it was as you say made to define the nazis so its been taken out of context

Unless you think that languages miraculously appear from somewhere, fully formed, like some natural phenomenon, and then never change, then all words are made up, and many change their meaning or usage over time.

there is no word to describe me wanting to rid the country of refugees other than common sence

Yes there is, it's called racism.

are you black ? white ? as it makes a difference on your opinion as to the word you say RACIST

Why? Anybody can be a racist.

the white folk in the uk hear this word and cower as they are afraid to be called it fu** i am not ,

Just as well, eh?

There are just as many black people h8ing whites as there is viceversa

So? Does that make racial hatred right?

i use the word hate even though its in my opinion worse than your racist ( nazi ) word

It is undeniable that words get invented and added to languages over time, and it is undeniable that some of them get their meanings changed.

So to keep saying that you are not a racist because you don't meet the original definition of the word shows that you are just another one of the wriggling racists who is stupid enough to think that repeated denial will somehow camouflage their true beliefs.

 

[joe-90]

People in here haven't got a clue what racism is.

Most have.

But I've certainly read a lot of posts from someone who hasn't.

If I were to say "I've never met a black that I like" is that a racist comment?

In the pure sense, no, it is not a "racist comment".

No it's not. It's just telling it the way it is.

Indeed. And if it is true then the reason that it is the way it is is that you are a racist.

Does a policeman arrest a black because he's a black (if the policeman is white)? No. He arrests him because he's a criminal.

We all know that sadly that is not true.

The people in here really have to get a grip on what racism is.

They have.

I get called racist all the time in here

Do you ever stop to wonder why that might be?

yet not a single poster has ever suggested which race I am racist against!

I thought I had, but if not, I apologise for not doing so, and I'll rectify that right now.

You don't care - you aren't fussy. Any foreigner will do.

Just as I said. Just pointless waffle from someone that thinks blacks are arrested for being black.

Get in the real world, Mate.

Your attitude is extremely biased. You see racism where racism doesn't exist. You don't even have a clue what racism is. You don't even know the difference between xenphobia and racism.

Now show me any post I have made that is racist. (he won't)

Show me which race I am racist against. (he won't)

Research what the word actually means (he won't).

joe

 

[Slogger]

i am not a nazi therefore the words used and made up to describe them doesnt work in the modern world

i am an enlightened individual that has seen the errors of my government in letting too many immigrants into this country there is only one way forward and that is backwards

back to the old values of I AM ALL RIGHT JACK

lets show the fugees they are not wanted

to name one problem there are 50 thousand polish workers in ireland ? now that is taking the pi**

tescos is using them as slave labour through agencies if we need workers that badly lets make the laws tougther on our unemployed so they have to work any job

we dont need immigrants taking our work as they wll eventually take the better jobs and they will not employ the english as we all know how foreign countrys are hostile to the uk lets show them

close the doors and name and shame any company using these scum

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Just as I said. Just pointless waffle from someone that thinks blacks are arrested for being black.

Sometimes they are.

Your attitude is extremely biased. You see racism where racism doesn't exist. You don't even have a clue what racism is. You don't even know the difference between xenphobia and racism.

I know what racism is, and I know that it is a form of xenophobia, but whether you are actually afraid of foreigners, or just don't like them and judge them on the basis of their nationality, I don't know.

Now show me any post I have made that is racist. (he won't)

If I did, you'd just deny that it was racist, so what would be the point? Your whole attitude, and the position you take on immigration and asylum seekers is a racist one.

Show me which race I am racist against. (he won't)

I have done more than once, but you seem to think that because you never mention a specific race or nationality that you can't be a racist, or can't be accused of being one.

Well guess what, racist Joe, you are and you can be. You don't need to pick on any particular group, the attitude you display towards immigrants, asylum seekers, (and, I suspect, holocaust revisionism) clearly shows that you are a racist.

Research what the word actually means (he won't).

I have already posted a definition above, so why you are saying that I won't "research" it when I've already given a definition, I don't know.

Maybe you just can't be bothered to read previous postings before weighing in with your laughably ineffective bluster.

Maybe you think, like your denials of racism, that if you keep denying the existence of these posts that people will believe you.

Well, guess what...

Anyway - in case you need the big print version, racism is any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Anyway - this is all getting very tedious.

Whilst I'm happy to debate the topic with others, I really don't see the point in carrying on a dialogue with either joe-90 or slogger on this.

And if either of you should think that if you make yet another repost of your pointless challenges or tired old denials, and I don't respond, that I've decided you were right all along, then you're not just a racist, you're a particularly stupid one.

 

[pickles]

The mods must be having their Turkey early, this is getting as bad as the holocaust denial thread.

The names seem familiar too.........wonder why

 

[empip]

Must be a happy family day for some....

 

[pickles]

Yourself included

 

[69er]

BAS

Thanks for the reply. See you have been busy! The way I see it and the way you see it are different therefore I agree to disagree - you have your beliefs and opinions and I mine. Only thing that I will comment on is the black wife thing - if you have black friends etc but choose not to take a black wife - are you only a little bit racist? By choosing not to take a black women as your wife you are not denying her any social or cultural right etc? Have a good day.

 

[empip]

Why are Asian-sub-continent football players under represented in professional football in this country?

Just what was this all about?

Now it has been said hereabouts ...'Keeping this lot on topic is a bit like herding cats..' Quite appropriate too.
Tis catching.

 

[joe-90]

Anyway - this is all getting very tedious.

Whilst I'm happy to debate the topic with others, I really don't see the point in carrying on a dialogue with either joe-90 or slogger on this.

And if either of you should think that if you make yet another repost of your pointless challenges or tired old denials, and I don't respond, that I've decided you were right all along, then you're not just a racist, you're a particularly stupid one.

I can see that you are losing the argument.

You are starting to shout and bluster.

Will you show me one example of a racist post I have made? Just one will do.

Now that you have posted a definition of racism all you have to do is ask someone to explain to you what it means.

I don't like white youths that wear hoods and commit acts of vandalism and steal cars. I would like the police to target that group. Am I a rascist for saying that?

I don't like young black males that carry guns and sell drugs. I would like the police to target that group. Am I racist in saying that?

When will you get into your head that I am talking about identifiable groups with in society that behave in a way that I find unacceptable?

You can include another group. Bogus asylum seekers that attempt to defraud the people of Britain. I would like the police to target that group. Am I racist for saying that?

If I am - to what race?

Now let me ask you a question.

It is estimated that one-in-fifty of our population are illegal immigrants or failed asylum seekers. At what ratio will you say "ENOUGH"? 1 in 40? 1 in 20? 1 in 5? Let me hear your answer to that question. (he won't answer).

You are a limp-wristed liberal living a silly ideology that fails in the real world. I'm asking you a real world question. So what is your answer?
You can't answer can you?


joe

 

[empip]

Why are Asian-sub-continent football players under represented in professional football in this country?

Just what was this all about?

Now it has been said hereabouts ...'Keeping this lot on topic is a bit like herding cats..' Quite appropriate too.
Tis catching.

Tell me what'd I say ??

 

[pickles]

Anyway - this is all getting very tedious.

Whilst I'm happy to debate the topic with others, I really don't see the point in carrying on a dialogue with either joe-90 or slogger on this.

And if either of you should think that if you make yet another repost of your pointless challenges or tired old denials, and I don't respond, that I've decided you were right all along, then you're not just a racist, you're a particularly stupid one.

I can see that you are losing the argument.

You are starting to shout and bluster.

Will you show me one example of a racist post I have made? Just one will do.

Now that you have posted a definition of racism all you have to do is ask someone to explain to you what it means.

I don't like white youths that wear hoods and commit acts of vandalism and steal cars. I would like the police to target that group. Am I a rascist for saying that?

I don't like young black males that carry guns and sell drugs. I would like the police to target that group. Am I racist in saying that?

When will you get into your head that I am talking about identifiable groups with in society that behave in a way that I find unacceptable?

You can include another group. Bogus asylum seekers that attempt to defraud the people of Britain. I would like the police to target that group. Am I racist for saying that?

If I am - to what race?

Now let me ask you a question.

It is estimated that one-in-fifty of our population are illegal immigrants or failed asylum seekers. At what ratio will you say "ENOUGH"? 1 in 40? 1 in 20? 1 in 5? Let me hear your answer to that question. (he won't answer).

You are a limp-wristed liberal living a silly ideology that fails in the real world. I'm asking you a real world question. So what is your answer?
You can't answer can you?


joe

Why are you only interested in this type of lawbreaking. Why all the "enough" "enough" shouting about it. People get killed on the roads by fools all the time, large companys avoid tax by hiring accountants who are smarter than the Inland Revenue which represents much greater loss than illegal workers, there's routine assault and disorder through excess drink and no one does a thing, car crimes have never been higher, gun crime, drug offences and organised crime are all on the increase why the obssesion with illegal immigrants

 

[david and julie]

Why are you only interested in this type of lawbreaking. Why all the "enough" "enough" shouting about it. People get killed on the roads by fools all the time, large companys avoid tax by hiring accountants who are smarter than the Inland Revenue which represents much greater loss than illegal workers, there's routine assault and disorder through excess drink and no one does a thing, car crimes have never been higher, gun crime, drug offences and organised crime are all on the increase why the obssesion with illegal immigrants

Got any figures to back up your assertion regarding company tax fiddling and illegal immigrants? By definition we don't know how many illegals there are so how can a costing be put on their presence?

Tax avoidance is a legitimate exercise, facts are we urgently need a flat tax or similar. If the privateer accountants are running rings around the people who helped form the rules then it speaks volumes about the quality of the public bodies.

I don't recall reading that anyone was "only" interested in any particular crime, Joe just happened to name a few that concern him, he never said they were the only ones. Of course he doesn't agree with the crimes you mention.

Why don't you people answer the sensible and non emotive question which was posed earlier.That is, at what point do we become full and close the doors to this influx?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Only thing that I will comment on is the black wife thing - if you have black friends etc but choose not to take a black wife - are you only a little bit racist?

It depends entirely on why you made the choice. A decision to ban all women with particular colour skin from joining the throng clamouring to be Mrs 69er would be a racist one

By choosing not to take a black women as your wife you are not denying her any social or cultural right etc?

I wasn't aware that there were any women in the world with a social or cultural right to be my wife. I'll discuss the idea with my current one, and see what she thinks...