Ban the Burkha?

the whole frickin religion is a twisted take on parts of christianity and judaeism and probably a few more religions to boot..

aren't Jews supposed to not let anyone see their women either to the extent that the strict ones wear wigs when out of the house to stop other men from lusting after them..

doesn't jesus even feature in islam as one of Alah's prophets rather than his son?
 
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doesn't jesus even feature in islam as one of Alah's prophets rather than his son?
He dragged jesus into the pot partly to appease the growing number of christians, but mostly to pi$$ the jews off.
 
Are you lot on drugs or do you love to make believe :LOL:
I think the queen is trying to become a saint so she will be remembered forever, :rolleyes: sh1t it's catching on from you lot :eek:
 
Are you lot on drugs or do you love to make believe :LOL:
I think the queen is trying to become a saint so she will be remembered forever, :rolleyes: s**t it's catching on from you lot :eek:
Not you're just being silly - she is a protestant and Saints can only be catholics. :rolleyes: ;) :LOL: :LOL:
 
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well i think banning the burkha is just silly, and nonsensical. I can walk down the street with a baseball cap and shades on, or a full face mask if that volcanic dust clouds comes this way again, or a motorbike helmet, or a scarf round my face if it's cold....(or if it's hot, and i choose to).....

But the burkha think is simple, as long as burkha wearers respect English(uk?) law..... and have id and facial photos... i don't need to see their photos, but the people who do...do! So if they go into a bank, they simply drop the veil....

IT'S ALL ABOUT ETTIQUETTE!! simples!!
 
well i think banning the burkha is just silly, and nonsensical. I can walk down the street with a baseball cap and shades on, or a full face mask if that volcanic dust clouds comes this way again, or a motorbike helmet, or a scarf round my face if it's cold....(or if it's hot, and i choose to).....

But the burkha think is simple, as long as burkha wearers respect English(uk?) law..... and have id and facial photos... i don't need to see their photos, but the people who do...do! So if they go into a bank, they simply drop the veil....

IT'S ALL ABOUT ETTIQUETTE!! simples!!
Yeah martian but if they're going to 'drop it' when in public places such as banks etc what's the point in wearing it at all? They either want to hide their captivating beauty from men, who will be consumed by it, :rolleyes: or they don't.
 
well i think banning the burkha is just silly, and nonsensical. I can walk down the street with a baseball cap and shades on, or a full face mask if that volcanic dust clouds comes this way again, or a motorbike helmet, or a scarf round my face if it's cold....(or if it's hot, and i choose to).....

But the burkha think is simple, as long as burkha wearers respect English(uk?) law..... and have id and facial photos... i don't need to see their photos, but the people who do...do! So if they go into a bank, they simply drop the veil....

IT'S ALL ABOUT ETTIQUETTE!! simples!!
Yeah martian but if they're going to 'drop it' when in public places such as banks etc what's the point in wearing it at all? They either want to hide their captivating beauty from men, who will be consumed by it, :rolleyes: or they don't.

if it's that important, they could have a "revealling room" in the bank? a bit like the methodrone dispensing room in Boots...

and why should we question why they wear the thing? we're all free anren't we? :eek: Don't get me wrong... as long as we all abide by british law, then i'm fine.... what about people giving out nightclub tickets in gorilla suits? it's got to be 2 way respect !!!!
 
well i think banning the burkha is just silly, and nonsensical. I can walk down the street with a baseball cap and shades on, or a full face mask if that volcanic dust clouds comes this way again, or a motorbike helmet, or a scarf round my face if it's cold....(or if it's hot, and i choose to).....

But the burkha think is simple, as long as burkha wearers respect English(uk?) law..... and have id and facial photos... i don't need to see their photos, but the people who do...do! So if they go into a bank, they simply drop the veil....

IT'S ALL ABOUT ETTIQUETTE!! simples!!
Yeah martian but if they're going to 'drop it' when in public places such as banks etc what's the point in wearing it at all? They either want to hide their captivating beauty from men, who will be consumed by it, :rolleyes: or they don't.

if it's that important, they could have a "revealling room" in the bank? a bit like the methodrone dispensing room in Boots...

and why should we question why they wear the thing? we're all free anren't we? :eek: Don't get me wrong... as long as we all abide by british law, then i'm fine.... what about people giving out nightclub tickets in gorilla suits? it's got to be 2 way respect !!!!
Mutual Respect, yes I agree with you.

The problem with a 'revelling room' (assuming someone who is wearing the veil, burkha, hoodie, crash helmet, scarf, etc is doing so to hide their identity in order to commit a crime), is that by that time, they are already IN the bank or wherever.

My point has always been and still is, that from birth we learn from our parents and other peoples facial expressions what they are trying to communicate... smiling, frowning, grimace, sadness, crying, anger etc etc etc. Unless you have developed some amazing ability to 'read' someone's eyes then you cannot tell if they are a 'friend or foe'... unless they've got a gun, knife, etc in their hand by which point it could be too late. The 'tone' of voice is an indicator we use but we take in a range of signals when we are communicating with people face to face and the term 'face to face' came about for a reason! It's not like being on the telephone to someone. Someone on the telephone cannot harm us directly, they CAN harm us when they are face to face with us.

If someone came up to you with terrible burns scaring to their face or some other disfigurement that meant they could not fully express their feelings through facial expressions, you quickly go through a range of emotional thought processes. They're obvious, I won't bother elaborating. However, we still look for 'positive and/or negative' facial signals from that person, we can't help it, we've done it since birth. Those emotional thought processes are NOT the same when someone approaches you who has 'hidden' their face. We are naturally concerned and indeed fearful of someone who hides their face.

It is basic human nature to want to see someone's face and be cautious of someone who hides their face. That doesn't make you a racist!
 
I agree with you Blas.

What i don't understand is how it would improve anything in the country if you ban the burkha. As long as these people are willing to follow appropriate security processes at airports etc.

It won't stop any crime - the 7/7 bombers were unmasked, and caught on cctv, and went on to blow themselves up. There's nothing to stop a bank robber pulling down a balaclava as they enter the bank.

As for communicating with facial expressions... these women only wear them when out in public, so all the bonding with offspring, and family stuff is as we would expect at home.

I'm open to ideas, but to me, banning the burkha is just an non-productive knee-jerk reaction to terrorism. There are many many other things i would ban first.
 
I was thinking of moving abroad to a predominantly Moslem country and taking up the attire of chain mail, helmet and an overvest of the cross of St George - since it's my belief that the crusaders AKA Knight Templars are the way to go.

Can't see that anyone would find this attire stupid to look at, out of place, nor controversial. ;)
 
I was thinking of moving abroad to a predominantly Moslem country and taking up the attire of chain mail, helmet and an overvest of the cross of St George - since it's my belief that the crusaders AKA Knight Templars are the way to go.

Can't see that anyone would find this attire stupid to look at, out of place, nor controversial. ;)

are you serious?.... think how hot that would be wearing that! plus you'd never get it through the airport scanner, and it's cost you a small fortune in excess baggage!!!
 
I was thinking of moving abroad to a predominantly Moslem country and taking up the attire of chain mail, helmet and an overvest of the cross of St George - since it's my belief that the crusaders AKA Knight Templars are the way to go.

Can't see that anyone would find this attire stupid to look at, out of place, nor controversial. ;)

are you serious?.... think how hot that would be wearing that! plus you'd never get it through the airport scanner, and it's cost you a small fortune in excess baggage!!!
Was thinking of making it out of hula hoops of a variety of flavours :idea:
 
And your other half could match up....

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