Bin Lid is no more...

[thatbloke]

You do make me laugh sometimes.

You make me laugh all the time, and I doubt I am the only one.

I aim to please.

I would like to think you weren't the only one , that would make you very strange indeed.

 

[thatbloke]

But your still happy to fill your car up with oil which in all probalility was sourced in these regions.
Makes you a hypocrite in my book.

my car runs on veg oil.

 

[Norcon]

And what about the engine oil and gear box?
Do you fill that with veg oil also?

And also have you any idea how much oil was burnt during the manufacturing process of the car?

Was that veg oil also?

 

[spacecat]

I don't have a car

 

[thatbloke]

Dude , am I out there pulling the trigger?
Let me guess that one for you,
No.

 

[thatbloke]

Anyhow , what oil are you talking about , the oil we get from the north sea or the oil we import from Norway?

We dont live in the 1950's anymore, we now get our oil from Norway mostly.
Only 2% comes from the middle east.
I wouldnt expect you to know this though.

 

[Norcon]

The food you eat is dripping in oil. Your pc, mobile phone, furniture, house,etc you name it.
And it don't all come from Norway.
But I'm sure it won't bother your conscious too much.

 

[thatbloke]

No it doesn't , just like 100000 deaths wont bother the conciousness of the soldiers pulling the triggers.
The difference is I have done nothing wrong.

If I suddenly dissapeared off the face of the planet these innocent people would still get murdered, if every soldier on the planet suddenly dissapeared they would still be alive.

 

[Norcon]

If every soldier disappeared the rest of us would cut lumps out of each other.
And it would make the soldiers work look like a picnic in the park.

In any case soldiers follow orders so if you want to knock anyone try their superiors.

 

[thatbloke]

See thats what I dont understand , i've often heard soldiers say ''i'm only doing my job'', but you chose to do that job.
Sure the people at the top make the orders but you have a choice whether or not you want to follow them.

 

[Norcon]

Part of being a soldier is to follow orders so I don't see how he has a "choice".

If he says no then its court martial and kicked out.

 

[cumbriahandyman]

See thats what I dont understand , i've often heard soldiers say ''i'm only doing my job'', but you chose to do that job.
Sure the people at the top make the orders but you have a choice whether or not you want to follow them.

You might have heard a traffic warden say that, soldiers will always say I am following orders.

Men and women join the armed forces for many reason, and in my 12 years of service not one person I served with nor one recruit I trained ever said they joined to kill.

The only reason you are able to express your opinion on this forum in English is because our armed forces followed orders, with many loosing their lives in the process.

So please don't have a go at the lads on the ground. If you don't feel that you can stand behind them, go visit Afghanistan and stand in front of them.

 

[spacecat]

To be fair to soldiers they are basically cannon fodder for the desires of the rich, powerful and influential..namely big business and politicians (often the same thing)

They cant even be bothered to equip them properly which sums upwhat they really think of them

its a mugs game

 

[thatbloke]

See thats what I dont understand , i've often heard soldiers say ''i'm only doing my job'', but you chose to do that job.
Sure the people at the top make the orders but you have a choice whether or not you want to follow them.

You might have heard a traffic warden say that, soldiers will always say I am following orders.

Men and women join the armed forces for many reason, and in my 12 years of service not one person I served with nor one recruit I trained ever said they joined to kill.

The only reason you are able to express your opinion on this forum in English is because our armed forces followed orders, with many loosing their lives in the process.

So please don't have a go at the lads on the ground. If you don't feel that you can stand behind them, go visit Afghanistan and stand in front of them.

I know you possibly never have been in a situation that might call for you to question orders , or perhaps you have ,but may i ask what would you do if you got an order through and you knew that there would be a lot more innocent deaths of women and children than the enemy , if any enemy deaths?
You are not obliged to answer this and I would fully understand if you didnt want to.

 

[Whitespirit66]

See thats what I dont understand , i've often heard soldiers say ''i'm only doing my job'', but you chose to do that job.

What an absolutely pathetic and selfish thing to say. The sort of rubbish that only a spineless person could say, whose first instinct during conflicts like WW1 and 2 would undoubtably be to concientously object.

That is a disgraceful comment, that completely undermines the ultimate sacrifices made by millions fighting for our freedom.

Without these soldiers doing their job, then your ancestors would probably have ended up in gas chambers.