Blown render!! Please Help!

[Freddie]

pva is glue

 

[legs-akimbo]

I am finding it very hard to read your contradictory half assed mumblings.

Do you know a magical way to stop it raining onto a house to stop it getting wet then, or do we only render bone dry blockwork in summer during drought conditions, Do you know what happens to a scratch coat applied to bone dry blockwork,? if so how do we stop this from going off in seconds?.....And please dont say uni bond the walls, or are you saying now dont wet the walls down, You have also stated after all that you do!!!

You have not answered my questions Yet.

 

[legs-akimbo]

Well you are just gonna have to tell me what the last item on your Ashlar wish list is J. bonding, because I dont know!

Now answer my question ...How do you produce Quoin stones, what are the methods involved, come on smart a**e you claim to know so much how would you do them?????????????????????????

VOUSSOIRS, now if you didnt know this its not worth me answering your questions, be honest legs if you want to be taught about all aspects of plastering just ask but dont go round the houses.you keep evadeing my questions, ie do you believe in freddies magic paint, waterproofer in the scratch is a preference, do you not see that doesnt make sense, once the water passes the top coat it will never get out and why would it, in there with that dry scratch coat.lol.

Yes indeed a voussoir is a wedge shaped stone that makes up the arch, I didnt know it was termed as that. However I do know that any arch of any given design that has its stone work, from its first"voussoir" sitting onto oblong shaped blocks/stones in the vertical are called...... No........ why dont you tell me seeing as you were so very smug in relation to Voussoirs. This will be clearly an easy one then for you.

 

[jbonding]

Well you are just gonna have to tell me what the last item on your Ashlar wish list is J. bonding, because I dont know!

Now answer my question ...How do you produce Quoin stones, what are the methods involved, come on smart a**e you claim to know so much how would you do them?????????????????????????

VOUSSOIRS, now if you didnt know this its not worth me answering your questions, be honest legs if you want to be taught about all aspects of plastering just ask but dont go round the houses.you keep evadeing my questions, ie do you believe in freddies magic paint, waterproofer in the scratch is a preference, do you not see that doesnt make sense, once the water passes the top coat it will never get out and why would it, in there with that dry scratch coat.lol.

I confess gladly that that is a new one to me...indeed I own a plastering encyclopediams and it is not in that either so I am not alone.
If you mean by magic paint the sealer then indeed I do believe there is , though I could possibly be wrong If I am I will readily say so ...However if there is Believe you me you will know about it!!!
No Waterproofer in the scratch coat on plain float or napp is a standard practice in Ireland where everything is rendered and I have explained my reasons: Indeed it may be against the recommendations of the manufacturers but they are not the ones who have to put it on the walls in the middle of winter, or for that matter on a hot day in summer where no matter how much you wet the waterproofed scratch coat it dries out within minutes, so that leaves you with a half inch of render on a dry backing coat with the sun beating down...what are the chances of a godd finish then, but you can with a soaked scratch without waterproofer...The reasons are so b****y obvious and if you had ever experienced theese conditions you would clearly know this.....but you have not that is obvious.
Whats more on your last question it does get out...have you not taken on board yet that millions of houses are rendered in this fashion here and they styand the test of time impeccably for crying out loud.

I make the effort to answer your questions and even when I have you simply ignore the fact and seem to ask me again for some puzzleing reason.
As for my two simple little questions you have been asked on fourteen seperate occassions ( and counting) yet you still have not answered them.

its a new one to you, well i never made it up and if your looking in a plastering encyclopedia youve sort of like gave yourself away. its the stones that are marked out next to the key stone above a window or door and they radiate out from a central point, maybe you refer to them as thingys.
quote legs "If you mean by magic paint the sealer then indeed I do believe there is , 2 so you beleive it stops cracking and reduces shrinkage,come on.

quote legs " Indeed it may be against the recommendations of the manufacturers but they are not the ones who have to put it on the walls in the middle of winter, or for that matter on a hot day in summer where no matter how much you wet the waterproofed scratch coat it dries out within minutes, so that leaves you with a half inch of render on a dry backing coat with the sun beating down..." this says it all, you've come up with nothing you muppet, in other words what do the manufacturers know, youve stood by them ,then left them went back and know your leaving the manufacturer again make your mind up.

quote legs "Whats more on your last question it does get out..." make your mind up youve said it wont get in.

 

[legs-akimbo]

http://www.unibond.co.uk/unibond/pdf/pva.pdf


Heres one just for you J.bonding a pdf from Uni bond that clearly says if you can get someone to read it to you ......Wait for it.......wait for it......

FOR INTERIOR USE ONLY So when the gumph therein states it seals and bonds and glues and does the thousand and one other things it claims, theese are for internal applications only......Not outside every third tuesday in the month, or if you are wearing orange underpants with one hand strapped to your d**k. It plainly, clearly and in no uncertain terms means dont use the fu**ing well ba**ard stuff outside. Now for the love of God is this enough for you to provewhat everyone and his dog have been repeating over and over!!

Surely even you cant ignore this and say that the Uni bond are wrong

Gotcha you know nothing Langer.

 

[jbonding]

Well you are just gonna have to tell me what the last item on your Ashlar wish list is J. bonding, because I dont know!

Now answer my question ...How do you produce Quoin stones, what are the methods involved, come on smart a**e you claim to know so much how would you do them?????????????????????????

VOUSSOIRS, now if you didnt know this its not worth me answering your questions, be honest legs if you want to be taught about all aspects of plastering just ask but dont go round the houses.you keep evadeing my questions, ie do you believe in freddies magic paint, waterproofer in the scratch is a preference, do you not see that doesnt make sense, once the water passes the top coat it will never get out and why would it, in there with that dry scratch coat.lol.

Yes indeed a voussoir is a wedge shaped stone that makes up the arch, I didnt know it was termed as that. However I do know that any arch of any given design that has its stone work, from its first"voussoir" sitting onto oblong shaped blocks/stones in the vertical are called...... No........ why dont you tell me seeing as you were so very smug in relation to Voussoirs. This will be clearly an easy one then for you.

you sad PRICK youve looked it up and found out what it was, you should know. then you go on and want me to repeat what is in front of you word for word then pick bits, get a life and admit your not sure, if you want advise start a new thread dont make out you know when on an number of times your arse has fell out and youve done a search and gone missing all of a sudden your delving into ashlar because you dont really understand it be honest like everyone else on here and ask.

 

[jbonding]

http://www.unibond.co.uk/unibond/pdf/pva.pdf


Heres one just for you J.bonding a pdf from Uni bond that clearly says if you can get someone to read it to you ......Wait for it.......wait for it......

FOR INTERIOR USE ONLY So when the gumph therein states it seals and bonds and glues and does the thousand and one other things it claims, theese are for internal applications only......Not outside every third tuesday in the month, or if you are wearing orange underpants with one hand strapped to your d**k. It plainly, clearly and in no uncertain terms means dont use the fu**ing well ba**ard stuff outside. Now for the love of God is this enough for you to provewhat everyone and his dog have been repeating over and over!!

thats one out of how many pdfs

Surely even you cant ignore this and say that the Uni bond are wrong

Gotcha you know nothing Langer.

 

[legs-akimbo]

Well you are just gonna have to tell me what the last item on your Ashlar wish list is J. bonding, because I dont know!

Now answer my question ...How do you produce Quoin stones, what are the methods involved, come on smart a**e you claim to know so much how would you do them?????????????????????????

VOUSSOIRS, now if you didnt know this its not worth me answering your questions, be honest legs if you want to be taught about all aspects of plastering just ask but dont go round the houses.you keep evadeing my questions, ie do you believe in freddies magic paint, waterproofer in the scratch is a preference, do you not see that doesnt make sense, once the water passes the top coat it will never get out and why would it, in there with that dry scratch coat.lol.

I confess gladly that that is a new one to me...indeed I own a plastering encyclopediams and it is not in that either so I am not alone.
If you mean by magic paint the sealer then indeed I do believe there is , though I could possibly be wrong If I am I will readily say so ...However if there is Believe you me you will know about it!!!
No Waterproofer in the scratch coat on plain float or napp is a standard practice in Ireland where everything is rendered and I have explained my reasons: Indeed it may be against the recommendations of the manufacturers but they are not the ones who have to put it on the walls in the middle of winter, or for that matter on a hot day in summer where no matter how much you wet the waterproofed scratch coat it dries out within minutes, so that leaves you with a half inch of render on a dry backing coat with the sun beating down...what are the chances of a godd finish then, but you can with a soaked scratch without waterproofer...The reasons are so b****y obvious and if you had ever experienced theese conditions you would clearly know this.....but you have not that is obvious.
Whats more on your last question it does get out...have you not taken on board yet that millions of houses are rendered in this fashion here and they styand the test of time impeccably for crying out loud.

I make the effort to answer your questions and even when I have you simply ignore the fact and seem to ask me again for some puzzleing reason.
As for my two simple little questions you have been asked on fourteen seperate occassions ( and counting) yet you still have not answered them.

its a new one to you, well i never made it up and if your looking in a plastering encyclopedia youve sort of like gave yourself away. its the stones that are marked out next to the key stone above a window or door and they radiate out from a central point, maybe you refer to them as thingys.
quote legs "If you mean by magic paint the sealer then indeed I do believe there is , 2 so you beleive it stops cracking and reduces shrinkage,come on.

quote legs " Indeed it may be against the recommendations of the manufacturers but they are not the ones who have to put it on the walls in the middle of winter, or for that matter on a hot day in summer where no matter how much you wet the waterproofed scratch coat it dries out within minutes, so that leaves you with a half inch of render on a dry backing coat with the sun beating down..." this says it all, you've come up with nothing you muppet, in other words what do the manufacturers know, youve stood by them ,then left them went back and know your leaving the manufacturer again make your mind up.

quote legs "Whats more on your last question it does get out..." make your mind up youve said it wont get in.

Surely no living being can be as dense as you are, can you not understand the logic behind my statement fool...You certainly have not experienced it and are simply putting words from me that dont exist to back yourself up. You thick ***** How many many many many times do I need to reiterate the point that waterproofer in the render does not create a totally impervious waterproof barrier.....You are truly pathetic At least use my actual words if you want to quote me .

NOW ANSWER MY BLOODY QUESTIONS FOR THE 15 th TIME OF ASKING

Fact is you are ignoring them because you dont know the answer, or can not find someone able to tell you...Are you not embarrassed at how stupid I am making you look and how everyone is laughing at you as the joker in this forum, and I have not even played all my cards yet, The best are yet to come.

 

[legs-akimbo]

Of course I did a search on Voi.....Whatever they are, you wouldnt enlighten me. I genuinely did not know and clearly stated the fact......You not only are unable to grasp basic facts but must clearly be stone mad
This is what I found and now I know what they are called.






http://www.heritage.co.uk/apavilions/linkvsx.html

 

[legs-akimbo]

http://www.unibond.co.uk/unibond/pdf/pva.pdf


Heres one just for you J.bonding a pdf from Uni bond that clearly says if you can get someone to read it to you ......Wait for it.......wait for it......

FOR INTERIOR USE ONLY So when the gumph therein states it seals and bonds and glues and does the thousand and one other things it claims, theese are for internal applications only......Not outside every third tuesday in the month, or if you are wearing orange underpants with one hand strapped to your d**k. It plainly, clearly and in no uncertain terms means dont use the fu**ing well ba**ard stuff outside. Now for the love of God is this enough for you to provewhat everyone and his dog have been repeating over and over!!

thats one out of how many pdfs

Surely even you cant ignore this and say that the Uni bond are wrong

Gotcha you know nothing Langer.

OOOOOOOOOO MYYYYYYYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!

I show him proof and it comes back with "thats one out of how many p.d.f's." WHATpdf's If there is one single solitary one, that states in clear English " For external use" you have shown, then bring it back for us all to see.


You are like a member of the flat earth society J.B. The only person not to accept that the world is round despite overwhelming evidence. If you want to spend your life with your fingers in your ears babbling "I will not listen" then go ahead.
B.T.W. when I said I was not aware of the stones being called whatever they are I simply meant that I didnt know that they clearly were, and thanks for enlightening me ( genuinely)

Now stop acting the clown and people will stop laughing at you if you can not answer my questions then be man enough to admit it ... I dont intend to be as glib and condescending as you because at least I can admit if I dont know something and learn from it...It just doesnt happen very often.

 

[jbonding]

Well you are just gonna have to tell me what the last item on your Ashlar wish list is J. bonding, because I dont know!

Now answer my question ...How do you produce Quoin stones, what are the methods involved, come on smart a**e you claim to know so much how would you do them?????????????????????????

VOUSSOIRS, now if you didnt know this its not worth me answering your questions, be honest legs if you want to be taught about all aspects of plastering just ask but dont go round the houses.you keep evadeing my questions, ie do you believe in freddies magic paint, waterproofer in the scratch is a preference, do you not see that doesnt make sense, once the water passes the top coat it will never get out and why would it, in there with that dry scratch coat.lol.

I confess gladly that that is a new one to me...indeed I own a plastering encyclopediams and it is not in that either so I am not alone.
If you mean by magic paint the sealer then indeed I do believe there is , though I could possibly be wrong If I am I will readily say so ...However if there is Believe you me you will know about it!!!
No Waterproofer in the scratch coat on plain float or napp is a standard practice in Ireland where everything is rendered and I have explained my reasons: Indeed it may be against the recommendations of the manufacturers but they are not the ones who have to put it on the walls in the middle of winter, or for that matter on a hot day in summer where no matter how much you wet the waterproofed scratch coat it dries out within minutes, so that leaves you with a half inch of render on a dry backing coat with the sun beating down...what are the chances of a godd finish then, but you can with a soaked scratch without waterproofer...The reasons are so b****y obvious and if you had ever experienced theese conditions you would clearly know this.....but you have not that is obvious.
Whats more on your last question it does get out...have you not taken on board yet that millions of houses are rendered in this fashion here and they styand the test of time impeccably for crying out loud.

I make the effort to answer your questions and even when I have you simply ignore the fact and seem to ask me again for some puzzleing reason.
As for my two simple little questions you have been asked on fourteen seperate occassions ( and counting) yet you still have not answered them.

its a new one to you, well i never made it up and if your looking in a plastering encyclopedia youve sort of like gave yourself away. its the stones that are marked out next to the key stone above a window or door and they radiate out from a central point, maybe you refer to them as thingys.
quote legs "If you mean by magic paint the sealer then indeed I do believe there is , 2 so you beleive it stops cracking and reduces shrinkage,come on.

quote legs " Indeed it may be against the recommendations of the manufacturers but they are not the ones who have to put it on the walls in the middle of winter, or for that matter on a hot day in summer where no matter how much you wet the waterproofed scratch coat it dries out within minutes, so that leaves you with a half inch of render on a dry backing coat with the sun beating down..." this says it all, you've come up with nothing you muppet, in other words what do the manufacturers know, youve stood by them ,then left them went back and know your leaving the manufacturer again make your mind up.

quote legs "Whats more on your last question it does get out..." make your mind up youve said it wont get in.

Surely no living being can be as dense as you are, can you not understand the logic behind my statement fool...You certainly have not experienced it and are simply putting words from me that dont exist to back yourself up. You thick ***** How many many many many times do I need to reiterate the point that waterproofer in the render does not create a totally impervious waterproof barrier.....You are truly pathetic At least use my actual words if you want to quote me .

NOW ANSWER MY b****y QUESTIONS FOR THE 15 th TIME OF ASKING

Fact is you are ignoring them because you dont know the answer, or can not find someone able to tell you...Are you not embarrassed at how stupid I am making you look and how everyone is laughing at you as the joker in this forum, and I have not even played all my cards yet, and I have not even played all my cards yet, The best are yet to come.

ive always quoted you look back through every word and ive quoted you, its that stupid you dont believe you said it.
quote legs "You thick ***** How many many many many times do I need to reiterate the point that waterproofer in the render does not create a totally impervious waterproof barrier.....You are truly pathetic At least use my actual words if you want to quote me ." how is the house gonna have any water protection if the top coat lets in water and the scratch coat drinks water it doesnt make sense where does all this water go.


quote legs "Are you not embarrassed at how stupid I am making you look and how everyone is laughing at you as the joker in this forum, and I have not even played all my cards yet, The best are yet to come. [/quote]" you tik **** if you had any cards you would of played them in the thread rendering info but you didnt you waited until you had someone daft enough to believe you like freddie. I reckon everyones laughing, its quite entertaining i think you and freddie should take to the road, so beware of two men with false irish accents.

quote legs "The best are yet to come. [/quote]" start another thred i think ive proved the point.

 

[jbonding]

Your wasting your time Legs---The fool jbonding has absolutley destroyed himself but he wont just admit his error and it makes him look totally naff now

you dont get off that easy giving made up advise.

 

[legs-akimbo]

The back of the new waterproofer I got today I tried to remove it but it refused to come off without tearing, so I will take off the one I have from my old drum some how some way. Or photograph it. (This I promise you)

I will then scan it onto my p.c. and offer it up for your perusal .....though quite frankly you are so ignorant that even the fact that it says it should be used in all coats ...And yes scratch and top coat...you still wont accept the fact ....just like you still have not accepted the fact that Uni bond state not to use pva externally.

NOW ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME HOW YOU WOULD MAKE QUOINS:
NOW ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME HOW YOUR ASHLAR WALL WILL NOT BREAK DOWN AS MY WATERPROOFED NAPPED ONE WILL (according to you alone)

SIXTEENTH TIME OF ASKING.....Lets all laugh at J.B
Lets all laugh at J.B.
Tra la la la
Tra la la la

 

[jbonding]

http://www.unibond.co.uk/unibond/pdf/pva.pdf


Heres one just for you J.bonding a pdf from Uni bond that clearly says if you can get someone to read it to you ......Wait for it.......wait for it......

FOR INTERIOR USE ONLY So when the gumph therein states it seals and bonds and glues and does the thousand and one other things it claims, theese are for internal applications only......Not outside every third tuesday in the month, or if you are wearing orange underpants with one hand strapped to your d**k. It plainly, clearly and in no uncertain terms means dont use the fu**ing well ba**ard stuff outside. Now for the love of God is this enough for you to provewhat everyone and his dog have been repeating over and over!!

thats one out of how many pdfs

Surely even you cant ignore this and say that the Uni bond are wrong

Gotcha you know nothing Langer.

OOOOOOOOOO MYYYYYYYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!

I show him proof and it comes back with "thats one out of how many p.d.f's." WHATpdf's If there is one single solitary one, that states in clear English " For external use" you have shown, then bring it back for us all to see.


You are like a member of the flat earth society J.B. The only person not to accept that the world is round despite overwhelming evidence. If you want to spend your life with your fingers in your ears babbling "I will not listen" then go ahead.
B.T.W. when I said I was not aware of the stones being called whatever they are I simply meant that I didnt know that they clearly were, and thanks for enlightening me ( genuinely)

Now stop acting the clown and people will stop laughing at you if you can not answer my questions then be man enough to admit it ... I dont intend to be as glib and condescending as you because at least I can admit if I dont know something and learn from it...It just doesnt happen very often.

youve learnt something im glad, im not condescending if you read your own posts and i dont mean just this one you may learn what the word really means.quote legs "B.T.W. when I said I was not aware of the stones being called whatever they are I simply meant that I didnt know that they clearly were, and thanks for enlightening me ( genuinely)
i appreciate it, now that sounds condescending if you read the previous posts, but nice one. the point im making and be honest wether your right or im right if you applied a coat of pva 6-1 to a scratch coat and rendered, would it fail and fall off due to a thin skin of pva, fair enough to a smooth background and be honest never mind your views on pva.

 

[jbonding]

The back of the new waterproofer I got today I tried to remove it but it refused to come off without tearing, so I will take off the one I have from my old drum some how some way. Or photograph it. (This I promise you)

I will then scan it onto my p.c. and offer it up for your perusal .....though quite frankly you are so ignorant that even the fact that it says it should be used in all coats ...And yes scratch and top coat...you still wont accept the fact ....just like you still have not accepted the fact that Uni bond state not to use pva externally.

NOW ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME HOW YOU WOULD MAKE QUOINS:
NOW ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME HOW YOUR ASHLAR WALL WILL NOT BREAK DOWN AS MY WATERPROOFED NAPPED ONE WILL (according to you alone)

SIXTEENTH TIME OF ASKING.....Lets all laugh at J.B
Lets all laugh at J.B.
Tra la la la
Tra la la la

so is it necessary in the scratch coat, will you accept the fact.
quote freddie "just like you still have not accepted the fact that Uni bond state not to use pva externally." youve stated that ive read 5 that dont say it and someone else has read one and freddie cant make his mind up.whats the point in telling you how to make quoins when you know you should be asking about voussoirs seeing as youve just discovered them.