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Brexit Negotiations proceeding, er...... well...... er....
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So now Brexit is the fault of the remainers for not realising how thick the thick were ???
Had they not told so many lies the leave vote would have been much bigger.
Were supposed to be in economic ruin at this stage.
Perhaps everything is the fault of the pollsters:
Trump has no chance; brexit has no chance; Tories have 20 point lead.
Trump has no chance; brexit has no chance; Tories have 20 point lead.
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You tell me. You remoaners are the ones spouting that drivel.
"A vote to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to our economy. That shock would push our economy into a recession and lead to an increase in unemployment of around 500,000, GDP would be 3.6% smaller, average real wages would be lower, inflation higher, sterling weaker, house prices would be hit and public borrowing would rise compared with a vote to remain.”
George Osbourne.
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So far, the bits I have highlighted in red have occurred.
And as John said, we have not left yet.
The recession is still a real possibility:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/sep/07/slowing-gdp-growth-bolsters-fears-of-uk-recession
And you think brexit is the cause?
Bull.
Train drivers were offered a pay packet of £75k per year and refused it.
These slackers should be given the choice between a 40% pay cut or the sack.
"There are two main reason for these setbacks. The first, which was set out in a trilogy of posts on this blog (here, here and here), is that the EU has prepared properly and practically for these negotiations. The EU knows what it wants, can justify what it wants and has worked out how to achieve it. Britain is instead saddled with a prime minister whose idea of “getting on with the job” includes calling and then losing unnecessary general elections.
The second reason is that UK ministers are, in fact, negotiating with the wrong people (as set in on this blog in November). Ministers are engaged in attempting to win over, as much as possible, their own backbenchers and the tabloid newspapers. A martian looking down on these ministers would assume that the EU exit negotiations were of secondary importance to winning political and press support. The Brexit agreement has an auxiliary role to the need to say the right things to the right people domestically.
Such is the closeness of Westminster political and media worlds that the foreign secretary and others do not realise there is anything about international agreements beyond joking with backbenchers and political correspondents. For Mr Johnson and those laughing along with him, Mr Barnier and his team are no closer than Alfred T. Mahan’s far distant, storm-beaten ships.
As pro-Brexit ministers attempt to bluster or chuckle their way through any form of scrutiny, the EU negotiating team is there waiting patiently, knowing the clock is ticking away. There will be attempts by ministers and their supporters at avoidance, evasion and diversion. There will be name-calling and strident demands for patriotism. There will be blame-mongering and jockeying for succession. But what there will not be is any relevant minister taking this as seriously as the EU is doing.
This week may have seen the day when the whistling stopped. But far more important is what Britain will have to show for itself when the ticking of the clock stops in just over 20 months’ time, and is replaced by the sound of silence. Even Mr Johnson may fail to raise a smile then."
https://www.ft.com/content/a0e25381-e85b-3572-baf2-3acf9aeba52a
The second reason is that UK ministers are, in fact, negotiating with the wrong people (as set in on this blog in November). Ministers are engaged in attempting to win over, as much as possible, their own backbenchers and the tabloid newspapers. A martian looking down on these ministers would assume that the EU exit negotiations were of secondary importance to winning political and press support. The Brexit agreement has an auxiliary role to the need to say the right things to the right people domestically.
Such is the closeness of Westminster political and media worlds that the foreign secretary and others do not realise there is anything about international agreements beyond joking with backbenchers and political correspondents. For Mr Johnson and those laughing along with him, Mr Barnier and his team are no closer than Alfred T. Mahan’s far distant, storm-beaten ships.
As pro-Brexit ministers attempt to bluster or chuckle their way through any form of scrutiny, the EU negotiating team is there waiting patiently, knowing the clock is ticking away. There will be attempts by ministers and their supporters at avoidance, evasion and diversion. There will be name-calling and strident demands for patriotism. There will be blame-mongering and jockeying for succession. But what there will not be is any relevant minister taking this as seriously as the EU is doing.
This week may have seen the day when the whistling stopped. But far more important is what Britain will have to show for itself when the ticking of the clock stops in just over 20 months’ time, and is replaced by the sound of silence. Even Mr Johnson may fail to raise a smile then."
https://www.ft.com/content/a0e25381-e85b-3572-baf2-3acf9aeba52a
If you want to see a good example of a 'thick as pig s hit' quitter, just read some of Roger the Liar's' posts.
Too dumb to write his own, he's even taken to copying others. Boy oh boy is he dumb.
Too dumb to write his own, he's even taken to copying others. Boy oh boy is he dumb.
Steady on ole chap. Don't be so ard on yourself.
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