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I like the idea of a 20 month delay so we can move away from this retarded two stage negotiation process. It’s nonsense.

Pay now for possible jam tomorrow - a rookie law intern wouldn’t agree to this.
Dominic Raab, Stephen Barclay, Nicky Morgan, Nigel Dodds and quite a few others are lawyers!
 
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Of course it will. So why would anyone celibate pain
Irony, not celibacy. :whistle:
I'll do the irony. You do the celibacy. :whistle:

Try that on your missus, "I'll do the irony, you do the celibacy"

Let's see you celebrate that!
 
I like the idea of a 20 month delay so we can move away from this retarded two stage negotiation process. It’s nonsense.

Pay now for possible jam tomorrow - a rookie law intern wouldn’t agree to this.

So why has the UK?
 
So why has the UK?
Its been a while since a worked public sector, it was something I tried to avoid, as no matter who was in government - the widespread incompetence was unbearable. I've literally had client engagements where we billed them twice for the same requirement because they asked for the wrong work and only realised after it was delivered despite constant cautions. I've been involved in projects that should have cost no more than 50-60M but ended up costing an extra 100M because nobody client side had a clue. I was once retained as advisor for 9 months and did approximately 4 hours useful work during that time.

The standard model seems:
- recruit the least competent staff to lead the show
- hire external consultant at 2k per day to advise the above
- recruit additional independent advisors to oversea the external consultants
- hire a couple of guys to do the actual work while being overseen at a ratio of at least 4 watchers to every doer.

I suspect that Brexit negotiations were done in a similar fashion. I'm not convinced any alternative leadership would have done better, probably a lot worse. After all its taken Corbyn 2 years to actually have an opinion on Brexit.

In all their defence - A50 is the most stupidly worded break clause ever imagined. It is by design intended to undermine the leavers hand and create maximum negative impact for anyone who dares to try to execute it.

Who would sign a perpetual agreement, where the termination clause made you liable for all foreseeable costs incurred and to be incurred.
 
Its been a while since a worked public sector, it was something I tried to avoid, as no matter who was in government - the widespread incompetence was unbearable. I've literally had client engagements where we billed them twice for the same requirement because they asked for the wrong work and only realised after it was delivered despite constant cautions. I've been involved in projects that should have cost no more than 50-60M but ended up costing an extra 100M because nobody client side had a clue. I was once retained as advisor for 9 months and did approximately 4 hours useful work during that time.

The standard model seems:
- recruit the least competent staff to lead the show
- hire external consultant at 2k per day to advise the above
- recruit additional independent advisors to oversea the external consultants
- hire a couple of guys to do the actual work while being overseen at a ratio of at least 4 watchers to every doer.

I suspect that Brexit negotiations were done in a similar fashion. I'm not convinced any alternative leadership would have done better, probably a lot worse. After all its taken Corbyn 2 years to actually have an opinion on Brexit.

In all their defence - A50 is the most stupidly worded break clause ever imagined. It is by design intended to undermine the leavers hand and create maximum negative impact for anyone who dares to try to execute it.

Who would sign a perpetual agreement, where the termination clause made you liable for all foreseeable costs incurred and to be incurred.

Well contracting out seems to be the MO of so many businesses these days and it's usually forced onto Gov departments by those higher up.

It's also a nice gravy train for the army of consultants that live off the Government.

A50 when it was written was never envisaged to be invoked so no wonder it was written the way it was.

Does A50 not cover the current liabilities upto the budget ending in 2020 to be paid upto and after 2020 that we made commitments to.
 
It's also a nice gravy train for the army of consultants that live off the Government.

I did a job for a guy that owned a consultancy company -all his work was NHS or other government authority. He had a massive house in Sussex, another big pad in Portugal, a Porsche Boxter. The guy was a total prat -just a salesman really, no technical knowledge.
 
I did a job for a guy that owned a consultancy company -all his work was NHS or other government authority. He had a massive house in Sussex, another big pad in Portugal, a Porsche Boxter. The guy was a total prat -just a salesman really, no technical knowledge.
Let's hope he doesn't read these forums. If he does, he won't be offering you any more work.
Or maybe he'd be better advised to take out a client confidentiality agreement, commonly known as a NDA.
 
a client confidentiality agreement, commonly known as a NDA.
This is a good example of your confusion with words and meanings leading to nonsense.

If it is an official term at all, presumably a Client Confidentiality Agreement would be a CCA.

A Non-Disclosure Agreement is known as an NDA.
 
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