Broadband and telephones

A couple of these can quickly and easily connect a copper pair telephone line in almost any location,

The restrictions and inconveniences involved in welding fibre optic cable were ignored when the decision was made to replace POTS using copper with VoIP using fibre.

Yes, but the big advantage of fibre, is the sheer amount of data, or the phone calls a single fibre can support. It is also regarded to be much more robust, and reliable, when compared to copper.
 
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Yes, but the big advantage of fibre, is the sheer amount of data
Which is far more data than a house will ever need,
or the phone calls a single fibre can support.
True but only necessary for fibre linking nodes ( trunks between telephone exchanges ) or cables to property with several phone lines.
It is also regarded to be much more robust, and reliable, when compared to copper.
Regarded as such by whom ? Managers in offices or engineers in the street repairing a damaged multi-fibre cable.
 
Which is far more data than a house will ever need,

64Kb was once regarded as more memory than any personal computer might need.

True but only necessary for fibre linking nodes ( trunks between telephone exchanges ) or cables to property with several phone lines.

The capability is there, you don't have to take advantage.

We were once limited to 4/5 analogue TV channels - switching to digital, meant we got access to 150 TV channels, plus 30 radio channels and other services, plus better definition. I doubt many would want to go back to analogue.

Regarded as such by whom ? Managers in offices or engineers in the street repairing a damaged multi-fibre cable.

I worked (GPO), on the old copper, analogue systems, back in the day. Faults were a continuous, ongoing battle. It was a very expensive network to maintain - I can certainly see how fibre and a digital network, right to the home, can not only be faster, but cheaper and more reliable.
 
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A couple of these can quickly and easily connect a copper pair telephone line in almost any location,

The restrictions and inconveniences involved in welding fibre optic cable were ignored when the decision was made to replace POTS using copper with VoIP using fibre.
Yes - I blagged a handful of those the last time a copper engineer came :LOL: , slightly different but cut wires off straight bust in and squeeze with plyers and at the same time as making the connection a little bit of pre installed silicone pops out perfect
 
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The clothes line contraption, is likely what I have - to be fair, I have not really looked at that part.



Unless the head end at the top of the pole, is already prepared, just to plug in, and the only bit needing preparation is the cable end on the drum, and they could do that in the van?



Now you mention the box. Might the box be the joint between external fibre, and the internal which has a plug for the ONT, already fitted?
All cables were a fixed length with a pre fitted plug on each end, apart from the one up the top of the post for which I can not confirm but he wasn't up there long.
They carry different fixed lengths on the van - he estimates which length is needed after eyeing it up. At the time of fitting I wanted it to go through an awkward hole and he was worried that it would damage the fitted plug end as that has no outer black sheath - only the almost last layre of white cable sheath so is very floppy. He said ok lets go for it and if tests show damage he will get another one out the van and start all over again up the post.
Fortunately tests for DB show no loss -- I toot the liberty of taking a picture of the test results on their tester.
 
Which is far more data than a house will ever need,

True but only necessary for fibre linking nodes ( trunks between telephone exchanges ) or cables to property with several phone lines.

Regarded as such by whom ? Managers in offices or engineers in the street repairing a damaged multi-fibre cable.
Yes I agree with you - the big push and the rhetoric sounds like the smart meter tatic to me. I was on FTTC at 55Mbs and now have 140 ish so its a small upgrade and do not see a need to upgrade to 900 in the future which I am sure they ill push.
 
The clothes line contraption, is likely what I have - to be fair, I have not really looked at that part.
I did because I was up there with him - I was on top of my canopy directing the route behind the flashing in a corner :LOL:
Its this, I think its pig ugly. In the picture you are also seeing the old copper twist attachment and cable - the fat one in the picture.
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Here is the test result at the ONT I think he sait the DB ? is 20 incoming at the post and this tells them the loss by the time its at the ONT. He does 2 tests. Not sure what the numbers mean - only that he said it was very good no loss or at least well within parameters.
I am thinking I know its the speed of light but the moor spare cable you have coiled up - is not going to be any good for the DB/ signal -- thing is it ?
I probably had about 5 M rolled up in the outside box and one of the cables they said they have to strip off the external black sheath but i didnt see if it was the one form the post or the one from outside to the ONT. - Perhaps its to allow room in the external box coil
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Yes I agree with you - the big push and the rhetoric sounds like the smart meter tatic to me. I was on FTTC at 55Mbs and now have 140 ish so its a small upgrade and do not see a need to upgrade to 900 in the future which I am sure they ill push.

For most people, it is probably unnecessary to have such capacity. I could, if I wanted it, have 8Gbps - but why? I went for the minimum package, 150Mbps. My FTTC, at 40Mbps, was more than adequate for my needs.

I was persuaded by the cheaper cost/the higher speed/ but mainly the fact that I would have to move to fibre anyway, next year, when it might become a much more costly 'distress purchase'. I was dreading the anticipated upset, if fibre installer, installed via the ground floor.

As said, he agreed to it all being in the loft. It took me a day to reconfigure the new router, but the loss of my default Plusnet email address, has caused me a great deal of work, the fixing of which will continue for some time yet.
 
Mine was a free upgrade. But a few months back when my contract was running out for FTTC it was actually the same price to go for FTTP than stick with FTTC. Now I have finally had it installed its a free upgrade on my current contract which I previously negotiated to be actually lower than the old one - upshot is I am getting FTTP £4 lower than my od FTTC :cool:
 
We got a YouFibre leaflet through, many months ago, with a good offer to move. Had I not been stuck in a new contract with Plusnet, I would have moved then. Then a few weeks back, PN advised that due to some error on their part, my contract could be escaped, at no cost. Rather than leave what had been a great service for several years, I invited them to compete against YF's offer, but they were not able, so I left them.
 
Losing the landline phone, it would have cost me £23.99, for 150Mbps, and a 18 month fixed, versus the £25.72 I was paying PLusnet. PLusnet only included the landline phone, no calls.

To the package I added porting the phone and number across, which costs me £3 per month, but includes free offpeak calls, to UK landlines, for one hour. Calls outside the free package, do seem quite expensive.

The original offer, was 24 months fixed, and quite a bit cheaper, for the 150Mbps. No doubt, come renewal time, I can talk them down in cost a little, in order to keep me.
 
Ours included the landline but no calls. We've had a landline without inclusive calls for years now and have always used our mobiles (with inclusive unlimited minutes) to call out. About all the landline is used for these days are to call 0800 numbers and for the odd incoming call from the MiL and our daughter who always calls Mrs Mottie for an hour or so every Sunday.
 
Ours included the landline but no calls. We've had a landline without inclusive calls for years now and have always used our mobiles (with inclusive unlimited minutes) to call out. About all the landline is used for these days are to call 0800 numbers and for the odd incoming call from the MiL and our daughter who always calls Mrs Mottie for an hour or so every Sunday.

My VoIP, has still to be tested, on an outgoing call. I've rung it, from my mobile, to confirm it works. I then had Avril ring it simultaneously, and then we discovered it had call waiting. I know it must have other VoIP features, but I have little idea what. YouFibre don't give any clues at all about the service.
 

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